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#51
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AllVolYall said:
Yes it can.

Hint: See Civil Right's Movement 60's
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There is a massive difference between wealthy millionaires and the people being protested then, namely that the millionaires now don't give a rip as long as they make money.

There is zero pressure on that money supply, therefore there is little legitimacy to this movement.
 
#52
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rockytop9808 said:
The main objective of the movement should be a push to get fresh people into Congress to attempt to get some real change.

The general public does not see this.
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I agree, but I think it would be best to get the money out of politics and elections first (or simultaneously). As long as the money is there, I feel like it will be hard to get true representation for the people (us). It is too much a corrupting force. I saw a report recently that says our elected representatives in Washington spent 30-50% of their time fund raising and trying to get re-elected. That's time they should be working for the People.
 
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AllVolYall said:
I agree, but I think it would be best to get the money out of politics and elections first (or simultaneously). As long as the money is there, I feel like it will be hard to get true representation for the people (us). It is too much a corrupting force. I saw a report recently that says our elected representatives in Washington spent 30-50% of their time fund raising and trying to get re-elected. That's time they should be working for the People.
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How do you get the money out?

Electing people not in it for the money. Which leads back to the point of electing new representatives. You're simply not going to do anything by standing in front of the people you're protesting, because, as I've said, they simply don't care.

I don't necessarily disagree with the movement, I just don't see a truly unified group that is capable of doing much of anything.

People have to actually go and create the change, not complain about how they want it. These protests are the latter.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
How do you get the money out?

Electing people not in it for the money. Which leads back to the point of electing new representatives. You're simply not going to do anything by standing in front of the people you're protesting, because, as I've said, the simply don't care.

I don't necessarily disagree with the movement, I just don't see a truly unified group that is capable of doing much of anything.

People have to actually go and create the change, not complain about how they want it. These protests are the latter.
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Vote to have it legislated out.
You can start here:

Get Money Out
 
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#57
#57
I wouldn't mind burning down that metal piece of **** statue on Pedestrian. That thing rapes my eyes
 
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emzeeee said:
There's a huge problem of MANY in the movement not being aware of those issues. I know of many people who are protesting for the sake of protesting. Thats irritating because it undermines what could be something real.
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I TOTALLY agree, but in any group, gathering or movement/protest you will end up attracting a little bit of everyone including some fringe elements. That's why it's difficult to judge what is going on with Occupy by just watching the News sound bites. Too many times they are just interested in providing entertainment and not education.
 
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AllVolYall said:
I TOTALLY agree, but in any group, gathering or movement/protest you will end up attracting a little bit of everyone including some fringe elements. That's why it's difficult to judge what is going on with Occupy by just watching the News sound bites. Too many times they are just interested in providing entertainment and not education.
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Regardless of my opinion on the protests. The one thing thats infuriating has been the excessive force police have used and their lack of accountability
 
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emzeeee said:
Regardless of my opinion on the protests. The one thing thats infuriating has been the excessive force police have used and their lack of accountability
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some might say they haven't used enough
 
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AllVolYall said:
And they would be wrong. Just like they were in the past.
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some people need some sense knocked into them but the amount of force required depends entirely on the thickness of their skull. For example, anyone comparing OWS to the civil rights movement obviously requires more force than a normal person
 
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utvolpj said:
some people need some sense knocked into them but the amount of force required depends entirely on the thickness of their skull. For example, anyone comparing OWS to the civil rights movement obviously requires more force than a normal person
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So are you saying I should have someone use force against me?
 
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#66
utvolpj said:
some people need some sense knocked into them but the amount of force required depends entirely on the thickness of their skull. For example, anyone comparing OWS to the civil rights movement obviously requires more force than a normal person
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You are spot on today. Damn, where has the sanity gone in this nation? Unreal.

I'll take a grande mocha latte, please.
 
#69
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utvolpj said:
some people need some sense knocked into them but the amount of force required depends entirely on the thickness of their skull. For example, anyone comparing OWS to the civil rights movement obviously requires more force than a normal person
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Thank God you're not running the country.

May as well burn up the Constitution when you get elected to anything meaningful.
 
#72
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utvolpj said:
not necessarily but something probably needs to be done to correct your way of thinking if you truly believe that
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So if I have an opposing view as you or a view you do not agree with, that means I need to have my way of thinking "corrected"?
 
#73
#73
AllVolYall said:
So if I have an opposing view as you or a view you do not agree with, that means I need to have my way of thinking "corrected"?
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Not like you're implying. You actually need to do a little homework (like you suggested to others) on the things you're comparing. Hopefully you can do it yourself
 
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AllVolYall said:
So if I have an opposing view as you or a view you do not agree with, that means I need to have my way of thinking "corrected"?
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You have the right to think what you want. So does the guy who predicted the world coming to an end this year.

You both are completely wrong though. I can't imagine someone comparing the Occupy Wallstreet "movement", and I say movement very loosely, to the friggin Civil Rights Movement. Unbelievable.

Some people need to take a big step back from their computer before they hit submit.
 
#75
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utvolpj said:
some might say they haven't used enough
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Occupy Oakland: Protesters take to streets of NYC in show of solidarity for Scott Olsen | Mail Online


I have a problem with a police officer that throws a gas canister into a small group of people helping someone who got shot in the face with a non lethal round... as they were asking for help.

I'm not making a judgement about the initial shot of the nonlethal round. Just the fact that they threw the canister into the small group trying to drag the veteran out of the way.
 
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