Offical Fire Randy Sanders thread

#26
#26
God there is not much more I can say about just how much I wish I want him to just go. I can't stand watching these lack luster performances anymore!
 
#27
#27
I know 2007 we should win out. Have you seen that schedule? but with RS at OC, I just dont know.
 
#28
#28
even 06 looks favorable w/ all home games against tough teams. then again we suck at home.

but if we ever win out we will reclaim neyland anyways.
 
#29
#29
The Vol Nation seems to be warming to my 5 year old opinion that Randy Sanders is in over his head. Seven points scored yesterday against the GA scrubs late. Let's see 1 td against Fla, 3 Td vs LSU (in regulation, 1 td against Mississippi, and 1 td against Ga late equals 9 td's in 4 games and 16 quarters. Randy Sanders sucks a#*. Oh yeah 2 td's against UAB. Get ready for a tough rest of the schedule, 7-4 is the best possible. Look for a suprise defeat also. Time for a near overhaul on offense and special teams. Randy Sanders sucks A#*!!!
 
#31
#31
donsarge I agree, he sucks (sorry freak). But he just needs to go.................. and soon.
 
#32
#32
i want to beat bama so bad, but i hope we beat them in a low scoring game. i dont want anything to give cpf false hope in rs.
 
#34
#34
IDK man, everyone thought buzz peterson was going to get another year. look what happened there.
 
#36
#36
oh it is coming, there is no way Hamlington is going to let fulmer keep him after this year.
 
#37
#37
You have heard it said:

We are only a film study away....
We are only a week away....
We are only a few less dropped passes away....
We are only a few special teams adjustments away....
We are only a few more tweaks away.....
We are only a little better execution away....

actually....TN has been a terrible team all year long. Except for the inspired play of the defense, and an incredible half by RC the season could be a lot worse. This is the same nonsense that has been spouted for the last few years....same song second verse...could get better, but will only get worse!

I say:

we are only a disciplined football team away...
we are only an offensive coordinator away....
or perhaps, we are only a head coach away....

I am not a fair weather fan. I have been saying this consistently since the post-98 NC slide began.....statistics don't lie...as the Fulmer waistline has expanded (not trying to be mean, just making a point) so has the discipline of the football team and staff declined. It is clear there are discipline problems there from the top down that inevitably carry-over into on the field (mis)execution. The talent is simply not being "coached-up" for whatever reason. Execution might not happen every time, but when more often than not most EVERY spot has problems then it is more systemic--it goes to coaching.

Don't take my word for it...look at the stats.

Sanders was an inconceivable choice for OC because Fulmer wanted it that way. If not for Trooper's incredible desire to be at TN one of the few good innovative coaching prospects would be gone...and I bet he is gone next year because he and Sanders simply don't get along.

How long has it been since any other coach was pursued by anyone? While that is not a gimme on its own, it does tell you that the UT system is perceived almost universally as stale and passe. The fact that it is regularly solved is proof.

TN will improve...there is simply no way to get much worse. We will not beat Bama, but will do our usual November run (but will probably slip up to a highly motivated highly-TN-hating team)and end up in a second or third tier bowl...where we will probably lose because we will be de-motivated because we were "overlooked" "got no respect" "dissed by the media".... How many times has TN been embarassed on national television? 7-4 at best, 6-5 at worst.

Sanders is not going anywhere because he was trained in the ways of his "master"...and the "master" is not letting the system go.

It will take many years of mediocrity before the good ole boy system allows for changes...so it is as it is....this is TN football...like it or not....

in the meantime, I and many others will continue to call for changes. The sky is not falling...mediocrity is just the hated but inevitable way of life.

Fulmer hates losing, and justifiably so, but he simply does not have it in him to reverse the course...things are just too entrenched and he is simply too change-averse to make the corrections. He is locked into the system of his own making...and it will take outside intervention to make a new course.

His record does speak for itself in terms of winning percentages. He wins most of the games he should win easily by winning them barely. He occassionally wins games he might not win. He seldom wins games when innovation is required, and he far too often loses games that should not be in question. If the standard is 8 out of 11, the Fulmer is the man.

In the old days of TN football that would have been the gold standard. Those days are gone to most of us. It is not a matter of ingratitude and too high standards, but expectations that he established and promised to meet.
 
#38
#38
Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 9, 2005 7:57 AM
With all due respect, we have not had a game plan that has "worked" all year.  SOMETIMES we are effective on our first offensive series.  After that, it seems that no adjustments are forthcoming.

Right now our game plan seems to be play for a field goal and hope the defense holds the opposing team scoreless.
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in our first siries we were using miss direction, qb boot and it was working. WHY on earth would we leave something that was working? my old high school coach said ( run it until they stop it ).
 
#39
#39
does anybody think phil is calling the plays and when they fail he uses sanders as a scapgoat. personally i do.
 
#40
#40
Originally posted by smokedog#3@Oct 9, 2005 3:43 PM
does anybody think phil is calling the plays and when they fail he uses sanders as a scapgoat.  personally i do.
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I think Phil comes up with the over all game plan: put 3 points on the board and hope Chavis comes through. I personally think he is well aware of RS limitations, and rest securely in them.
 
#42
#42
It will be tough to fire someone that you have backed from day one as your man. PF will have a lot of crow to eat admitting that he has been wrong for the last seven years. He will need some encouragement from MH...
 
#44
#44
That's right. Don't here much about contract extensions or raises this year. I had a bad feeling about them last year.
 
#45
#45
me too after beating a overated texas a@m team everybody thought he should get a raise. can the U have the money back. i got a great idea no more raises till he wins a sec champ, and for every year he don't knock off $250000 i think he would show a sense of urgency.
 
#47
#47
Whether you like it or not, College ball is a business. Thats why it takes a large donation to the program to even get the foot in the door for regular season tickets. Its so funny then that when it comes to funding the AD football is considered business, when it comes to winning on the field, there is no accountability. I've never been a Sanders basher, but the bottom line is that the offense is stagnant (to put it nicely), maybe ineffective is a better word. Bottom line for a business is performance, and if it's not performing, you get a new manager. The offense isnt holding up its end of the deal, even when the defense practically gives you the golden opportunity to get back in it. Sanders is the leader - he is responsible. Time to go.
 
#48
#48
since phil is the head coach and appointed sanders that position, isn't he just as responsible.
 
#49
#49
Originally posted by jwells@Oct 9, 2005 2:47 AM
This is an interesting thread. If we'd won the game, Sanders would have been fine, no talk of firing him. BUT, we lost...so everyone goes to blame the playcalling. I fail to see how throwing it away instead of to the open receiver, dropping one in the endzone, throwing it too high in the end zone, poor O-line blocking, and all around poor pass selection/execution has to do with the playcalling. It seems to me that the offense clicked pretty well and then all of a sudden fell apart right when we had a chance to turn the game around. Briscoe dropping that pass wasn't the play caller's fault, clausen getting creamed and fumbling wasn't either...that was poor execution of a tried and true game plan, that has worked, and still does work.
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If we'd won the game, different play calls would have been made. Like going for it on 4th down by 2 touchdowns with 6 minutes left in the game
 
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