Offical Vince Young thread

#26
#26
kptvol said:
Yeah, I like Vince Young. I liked him in college, and I still think he's pretty entertaining to watch. He was a phenomenal college player; arguably in the top 3 for this decade. BUT, I still have a hard time saying he's going to be smashing success in the pros. I'm not sure if he's even passed for 200 yards in a game yet. This treatment of him is reminding me a lot of Arian Foster after the '05 season. He was regarded as the guy that would take UT to the promised land in '06. When he couldn't do it everyone was ready to write him off. It's ridiculous really. Still, I'd be surprised if the same thing doesn't happen to Vince Young.
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I'm not into believing and overhyping someone either, but you have to give him credit for last year when he actually got to play. He still needs to develop a little better throwing and I know it will be harder this season, but he found ways to win last season and based on last year there's no reason to believe that he doesn't have the potential to be a top 3 qb in the NFL in the next 3-5 years.
 
#27
#27
Vol423 said:
Well, if you recall, I was the primary person pointing out that Arian Foster was overhyped going into the 2006 season. I'm still not writing him off. He just doesn't walk on water like everyone wanted to believe he could.
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Exactly. When you paint this picture of a guy being a god on the football field, it makes him seem really pathetic when he performs average. Thus, he can come to be perceived as a bust more easily. This is exactly what happened to Foster. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few months there are several threads in here bashing Vince.
 
#28
#28
TennesseeFan07 said:
I'm not into believing and overhyping someone either, but you have to give him credit for last year when he actually got to play. He still needs to develop a little better throwing and I know it will be harder this season, but he found ways to win last season and based on last year there's no reason to believe that he doesn't have the potential to be a top 3 qb in the NFL in the next 3-5 years.
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He needs to get a lot better throwing. He'll also need to have a lot of luck on his side, like the Titans had against Jacksonville last year.
 
#29
#29
And I wouldn't be surprised in a few months if there's a few threads here praising vince for being the best ever.:)
 
#30
#30
I'm expecting Vince to have a worse year than what many thinks because he doesn't have Travis Henry to work with and Lendale cant seem to be able to stop eating and start losing wait and getting in shape and we don't excactly have a bunch of stars at the receiving group.
 
#31
#31
TennesseeFan07 said:
I'm not into believing and overhyping someone either, but you have to give him credit for last year when he actually got to play. He still needs to develop a little better throwing and I know it will be harder this season, but he found ways to win last season and based on last year there's no reason to believe that he doesn't have the potential to be a top 3 qb in the NFL in the next 3-5 years.
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I viewed your profile, and I see that you're a high school student. This explains a lot to me because you seem to lack perspective. In Peyton Manning and Tom Brady you have two quarterbacks that are well on there way to being recognized as two of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history, and they are at the absolute pinnacle of their game. Vince Young is not an accurate passer, and he has a LONG way to go to be mentioned in the same breath as Manning, Brady or Carson Palmer. I strongly doubt that he'll even be considered the top prospect from his own draft class by the end of the next 3 to 5 years.
 
#33
#33
TennesseeFan07 said:
And I wouldn't be surprised in a few months if there's a few threads here praising vince for being the best ever.:)
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Knowing the lack of perspective and objectivity of many of the posters on this board, you may very well be correct. Hell, I'm pretty sure that I've already read some of these threads.
 
#34
#34
Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. If the management can get some people around him then he will be in the top 3. He may not statistically, but he will lead the Titans to many victories and hopefully many playoff appearences and that's all I am worried about. Now I will agree with you somewhat. I think by the time it's all said and done he may not be considered as the top quarterback of his draft class.
 
#36
#36
Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, Marc Bulger, Matt Hasselbeck, Donovan McNabb, Philip Rivers, etc.
 
#37
#37
Bulger, McNabb, and Hassleback aren't going to be close. But thinking over the situation, I may have been wrong about the top 3 pick. But once again we cant really judge him until he actually gets some decent talent around him.
 
#38
#38
There seems to be a really strong disconnect between the perceptions that Titans' fans have of their team versus the perceptions of fans of other teams. For instance, this time last year the majority of posters on this board were ready to run Fisher out of town, and were discussing who should be the Titans' next head coach. I went on record as stating that he was outstanding coach and the Titans would be insane to let him go. The problem that the Titans have is that they have a SEVERE lack of talent, and that lack of talent is still FAR worse than Titans' fans seem to realize. They are not going to the playoffs. They'll be worse this year than they were last year.
 
#39
#39
Hey I finally agree with you on something. Fisher is an fantastic coach, and I king of feel bad for him for having to coach at such a terrible organization. I would say 6-10 to 8-8 is a realistic possibility.
 
#40
#40
TennesseeFan07 said:
Bulger, McNabb, and Hassleback aren't going to be close. But thinking over the situation, I may have been wrong about the top 3 pick. But once again we cant really judge him until he actually gets some decent talent around him.
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I'll take Bulger and McNabb over Vince Young any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'm not a huge fan of Hasselbeck, but I'd take him over Vince Young as well. I'd also take both Cutler and Leinart over Vince Young in a heartbeat.
 
#41
#41
Vol423 said:
I'll take Bulger and McNabb over Vince Young any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'm not a huge fan of Hasselbeck, but I'd take him over Vince Young as well. I'd also take both Cutler and Leinart over Vince Young in a heartbeat.
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In 8-10 years maybe, but not now.
 
#42
#42
TennesseeFan07 said:
Hey I finally agree with you on something. Fisher is an fantastic coach, and I king of feel bad for him for having to coach at such a terrible organization. I would say 6-10 to 8-8 is a realistic possibility.
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The Titans aren't a terrible organization. They held a very competitive playoff team together for a number of years, but they didn't manage the salary cap well. As a result, they eventually had to dump all of their talent and start over. The 49er's have been going through the same process for the last several years. The 49er's are, however, doing a better job of rebuilding. Hitting the lottery on a running back selected in the middle to late rounds of the draft has that type of effect on a team's fortunes.
 
#43
#43
TennesseeFan07 said:
In 8-10 years maybe, but not now.
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No. They're better now, and they'll be better later as well. You're probably a huge fan of Michael Vick as well. The ability to be an accurate passer is important in the NFL. Leinart and Cutler are more accurate passers than Vince Young.
 
#44
#44
The 49ers are going to be in trouble in a couple of years though. Nolan is a great coach, but they spent way too much money this offseason. Mike Reinfeldt has done nothing since getting here to encourage me for the next couple of seasons as a Titans fan. I know he didn't want to go out and get back in salary cap troubles, but he could have kept Henry and I thought the first couple of picks in the NFL draft were bad, but time will tell.
 
#45
#45
TennesseeFan07 said:
The 49ers are going to be in trouble in a couple of years though. Nolan is a great coach, but they spent way too much money this offseason. Mike Reinfeldt has done nothing since getting here to encourage me for the next couple of seasons as a Titans fan. I know he didn't want to go out and get back in salary cap troubles, but he could have kept Henry and I thought the first couple of picks in the NFL draft were bad, but time will tell.
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The Titans draft this year was atrocious.
 
#46
#46
Vol423 said:
No. They're better now, and they'll be better later as well. You're probably a huge fan of Michael Vick as well. The ability to be an accurate passer is important in the NFL. Leinart and Cutler are more accurate passers than Vince Young.
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No I can't stand Michael Vick. I knew everyone would think that since I'm a fan of Young I must be a fan of Vick. I normally don't like scrambling quarterbacks, but ever since watching Vince Young in his sophmore season in the Rose Bowl against Michigan I've recognized his talent.
 
#47
#47
I really haven't saw much of Cutler and Leinart, but I'm just going by who had the better year last year and that has to be young. Cutler and Leinart were both on more talented teams than Young last year, but Vince did the best with what he had while Leinart was just average and Cutler didn't really have a chance to show what he had.
 
#48
#48
TennesseeFan07 said:
No I can't stand Michael Vick. I knew everyone would think that since I'm a fan of Young I must be a fan of Vick. I normally don't like scrambling quarterbacks, but ever since watching Vince Young in his sophmore season in the Rose Bowl against Michigan I've recognized his talent.
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Hell, if lighting up Michigan in a bowl game during the sophomore season of a college career is an indication of future greatness in the NFL (top 3 status), then Casey Clausen should be cracking the top 3 anytime now.
 
#49
#49
Vol423 said:
Hell, if lighting up Michigan in a bowl game during the sophomore season of a college career is an indication of future greatness in the NFL (top 3 status), then Casey Clausen should be cracking the top 3 anytime now.
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Even if you are disagreeing with me that's funny. :eek:lol:
 
#50
#50
TennesseeFan07 said:
I really haven't saw much of Cutler and Leinart, but I'm just going by who had the better year last year and that has to be young. Cutler and Leinart were both on more talented teams than Young last year, but Vince did the best with what he had while Leinart was just average and Cutler didn't really have a chance to show what he had.
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Actually, Leinart showed more promise as a passer than Young, but the press gave Young all of the credit for every Titans victory despite the fact that the majority of the load was actually shouldered by Travis Henry.
 
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