Official Brexit Referendum Discussion

[volinbham]

The UK’s submarine and subs carrying their nukes are in Scotland along with some RAF bases. Without Scotland the U.K. and NATO lose coverage of the North Sea, Norwegian Sea and basing for its navy which is kind of important when your trying to keep track of all the Russian subs.

Have either Scotland or the UK said they were leaving NATO? Maybe I missed it if they did (serious). Is their membership contingent on being part of the EU?

 

[golfballs]

 

[NorthDallas40]

Have either Scotland or the UK said they were leaving NATO? Maybe I missed it if they did (serious). Is their membership contingent on being part of the EU?

Remember your SOP post earlier?

 

[golfballs]

The UK’s submarine and subs carrying their nukes are in Scotland along with some RAF bases. Without Scotland the U.K. and NATO lose coverage of the North Sea, Norwegian Sea and basing for its navy which is kind of important when your trying to keep track of all the Russian subs.

Seriously where do you read this ****. Because you clearly don’t know wtf you’re talking about

 

[golfballs]

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Oh jeez I hope this doesn’t stop the Dem nominee from campaigning w her. After today I thought it was definitely happening

 

[carlos86]

Have either Scotland or the UK said they were leaving NATO? Maybe I missed it if they did (serious). Is their membership contingent on being part of the EU?

The SNP have stated that if there was a material change of circumstances, such as the UK leaving the EU there would be a second referendum. Brexit is now all but assured so the Scots are going to leave the U.K.

 

[volinbham]

The SNP have stated that if there was a material change of circumstances, such as the UK leaving the EU there would be a second referendum. Brexit is now all but assured so the Scots are going to leave the U.K.

quite a leap to say this will end all NATO cooperation from the Scots - they'd be nuts to do so.

 

[Velo Vol]

Northern Ireland would mostly leave the U.K. after Scotland. But that one could be bloody.

It depends if a border solution is worked out.

The SNP have stated that if there was a material change of circumstances, such as the UK leaving the EU there would be a second referendum. Brexit is now all but assured so the Scots are going to leave the U.K.

*possibly

 

[Orangeburst]

Remember your SOP post earlier?

So check this out. I was googling the military ramifications of Scotland leaving the UK and got this old Guardian article. What surprises me is this pop up. Talk about foreign campaign meddling. I am curious to even the legality of it. See if it shows up when you click.

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[carlos86]

Seriously where do you read this ****. Because you clearly don’t know wtf you’re talking about

So Clyde Naval base at Gare Lochin Argyll and Bute, Scotland isn’t the home of the UK’s Sub launched ICBMs??? RAF Lossiemouth in Moray, Scotland isn’t the home of the U.K.s 4 squadrons of Typhoons and a squadron of P-8s???

 

[volinbham]

So check this out. I was googling the military ramifications of Scotland leaving the UK and got this old Guardian article. What surprises me is this pop up. Talk about foreign campaign meddling. I am curious to even the legality of it. See if it shows up when you click.

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Every time I've followed a link to the Guardian (mostly through Real Clear Politics) there's a solicitation for cash. Kudos to them I guess for clearly if inadvertently showing their agenda.

 

[NorthDallas40]

So Clyde Naval base at Gare Lochin Argyll and Bute, Scotland isn’t the home of the UK’s Sub launched ICBMs??? RAF Lossiemouth in Moray, Scotland isn’t the home of the U.K.s 4 squadrons of Typhoons and a squadron of P-8s???

Way to ignore the point genius you have no viable information and don’t know WTF you’re talking about on Scotland leaving NATO if they split with the UK

 

[Orangeburst]

Every time I've followed a link to the Guardian (mostly through Real Clear Politics) there's a solicitation for cash. Kudos to them I guess for clearly if inadvertently showing their agenda.

This was not a link from another site. It is solicited by the US Editor for the Guardian as said in text. Just think it peculiar that foreign paper is soliciting. It is not really a pop up. Just part of the column.

 

[Velo Vol]

LOL

 

[carlos86]

Way to ignore the point genius you have no viable information and don’t know WTF you’re talking about on Scotland leaving NATO if they split with the UK

NATO has already said Scotland would not get automatic membership in NATO. If the Scots had a vote on membership it would be in opposition because the Scots do not approve of the use of nuclear weapons. In order for them to join NATO they would have to let the Brits base the subs with tridents in Scotland. Well that’s most likely not happening. Without trident being based there it’s membership would be blocked.

 

[VolnJC]

 

[volfanhill]

NATO has already said Scotland would not get automatic membership in NATO. If the Scots had a vote on membership it would be in opposition because the Scots do not approve of the use of nuclear weapons. In order for them to join NATO they would have to let the Brits base the subs with tridents in Scotland. Well that’s most likely not happening. Without trident being based there it’s membership would be blocked.

It’s easy to say that for support. Once you are autonomous you have to pick a side.

 

[VolnJC]

 

[NorthDallas40]

It’s easy to say that for support. Once you are autonomous you have to pick a side.

And the base in question supports the economy of the city built around it.

While some of the Scot people are for disarmament it’s a stretch to say the Scottish government will support it. But as usual Carlos is a drama queen on the topic



Scottish Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament - Wikipedia

 

[VolnJC]

Shades of 2016 across the pond

 

[zeppelin128]

nm

 

[carlos86]

Remember what I said about Northern Ireland.

 

[tvolsfan]

Remember what I said about Northern Ireland.

Oh, I’m actively rooting for a United Ireland. Hope it happens.

 

[FLVOL_79]

LOL. Leftists are such cuckish weak minded twits

 

[Boston Vol]

Those damn Jews......