Official Brexit Referendum Discussion

#201
#201
utvols88 said:
Britain also doesn't believe it is "Europe" per se.
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Correct. Never have and never will. That thought is what contributed most to them leaving the EU in the first place. But they have now gotten the ball rolling for other "European" countries to consider the alternative. That's the point.
 
#203
#203
Septic said:
I saw that Trump was in Scotland with his press contingent this morning pimping his new golf course a day after a whining about Hillary using her position for personal gain.

I wonder if Trump got the memo that the Scots voted to remain before or after he told them how great of a decision it was for the UK to exit the EU?
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I don't know, but it was odd listening to him cheer the UK leaving the EU while in Scotland. I read that Scotland may vote another referendum now the Britain passed Leave.
 
#204
#204
Septic said:
I saw that Trump was in Scotland with his press contingent this morning pimping his new golf course a day after a whining about Hillary using her position for personal gain.

I wonder if Trump got the memo that the Scots voted to remain before or after he told them how great of a decision it was for the UK to exit the EU?
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He'll probably lose some of them Scottish votes.
 
#206
#206
Or he just further displayed that he is an egotistical blowhard that talks directly out of his a$$: praises Scotland for "taking their country back" while Scotland overwhelmingly voted to remain in the EU.
 
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#207
#207
AirVol said:
I don't know, but it was odd listening to him cheer the UK leaving the EU while in Scotland. I read that Scotland may vote another referendum now the Britain passed Leave.
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Scotland reminds me of a remora. Sucking to the side England. When England decides it wants to move on to warmer waters, the remora detaches and latches onto the side of the EU which in this analogy is a dying whale.
 
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#208
#208
golfballs said:
Scotland reminds me of a remora. Sucking to the side England. When England decides it wants to move on to warmer waters, the remora detaches and latches onto the side of the EU which in this analogy is a dying whale.
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Good analogy. They had their chance to break away and didn't have the balls to do it.
 
#209
#209
LouderVol said:
:hi:

Nuland had other responsibilities yesterday, so I knew there was a good chance. :devilsmoke:

What does this do to your men behind the curtains thoughts? Did they want the UK to leave? Were they asleep yesterday? Or are they not as powerful/evil as you have made them out to be?
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Honestly, I'm a bit stunned that it went the way it did..

Gladly the people of GB spoke yesterday despite the bankster/politician effort to derail it, including our own president..
 
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#211
#211
golfballs said:
Scotland reminds me of a remora. Sucking to the side England. When England decides it wants to move on to warmer waters, the remora detaches and latches onto the side of the EU which in this analogy is a dying whale.
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Like the analogy. A remora on a dying whale pissing fine whisky.
 
#212
#212
some of the posters here have the comprehension level of a doorknob.

but for liberal dems that is reaching the top.

:)
 
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#213
#213
mrorange211 said:
Or he just further displayed that he is an egotistical blowhard that talks directly out of his a$$: praises Scotland for "taking their country back" while Scotland overwhelmingly voted to remain in the EU.
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This would be akin to Jeremy Corbyn making a speech in Tennessee praising America's decision to elect Obama. I doubt anyone going to hear him speak is going to be that upset with his statements, and it echos the sentiment of his constituents on the other side of the pond. That doesn't make him any of the things you claim he is
 
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#214
#214
AirVol said:
I don't know, but it was odd listening to him cheer the UK leaving the EU while in Scotland. I read that Scotland may vote another referendum now the Britain passed Leave.
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Wouldn't surprise me to see the Scots vote on leaving the UK.

Crazy.
 
#216
#216
Septic said:
Wouldn't surprise me to see the Scots vote on leaving the UK.

Crazy.
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There's talk of this being very likely.

There's a wave in the uneducated working classes, worldwide, of belief that nationalism is the answer to their problems. This is eerily similar to Nazi Germany, finding someone to blame for stagnation of wages and advancement.

Trump supporters are very susceptible to this same manipulation.
 
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#218
#218
lawgator1 said:
There's talk of this being very likely.

There's a wave in the uneducated working classes, worldwide, of belief that nationalism is the answer to their problems. This is eerily similar to Nazi Germany, finding someone to blame for stagnation of wages and advancement.

Trump supporters are very susceptible to this same manipulation.
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It's always the uneducated working class ****ing things up for you educated ruling class guys huh?
 
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#220
#220
Heres the thing with the EU - it was always a compromise approach.

There's no reason that some of the good of the EU cannot be preserved (eased travel between member countries, some trading bloc aspects, some shared intelligence/defense) without the bad (loss of some sovereignty, crushing bureaucracy, bail outs of failed economies).

I'm surprised it lasted this long.

They either needed to go to one big country with existing countries being states (our model) or a more loose confederation as suggested above. The half-way pregnant model was doomed from the beginning - not enough glue to hold it together.
 
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#221
#221
lawgator1 said:
There's talk of this being very likely.

There's a wave in the uneducated working classes, worldwide, of belief that nationalism is the answer to their problems. This is eerily similar to Nazi Germany, finding someone to blame for stagnation of wages and advancement.

Trump supporters are very susceptible to this same manipulation.
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Typical. Demonize those who didn't vote the way you wanted.
 
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#222
#222
volinbham said:
Heres the thing with the EU - it was always a compromise approach.

There's no reason that some of the good of the EU cannot be preserved (eased travel between member countries, some trading bloc aspects, some shared intelligence/defense) without the bad (loss of some sovereignty, crushing bureaucracy, bail outs of failed economies).

I'm surprised it lasted this long.

They either needed to go to one big country with existing countries being states (our model)or a more loose confederation as suggested above. The half-way pregnant model was doomed from the beginning - not enough glue to hold it together.
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That will never happen, though.

(Barring the outcome of some massive war.)
 
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