Official GOP Convention thread

#303
#303
Mr_Henley said:
Bull****. Bull****. Bull****.

Why must I vote AGAINST Barack Obama? Why must I vote AGAINST certain views or stances? I'm not voting for Barack Obama unless my finger selects his name in the voting booth.

My vote for Ron Paul, or (likely) Gary Johnson, will be casting a vote for good things I believe in. I will be voting for a candidate who best represents my personal views, and is best to lead this country. It's time we stop voting AGAINST Bush in '08, and voting AGAINST Obama in '12.

When some ask why I supported Ron Paul during the primaries, I could give a dozen reasons, and never mention Barack Obama or Mitt Romney. I could talk on specific views and positive qualities about "my" candidate. I ask people why I should vote Romney, their response "it's a vote against Obama". When will this cycle end, 2016,2020,2024?

I will be casting a vote FOR the man I believe to be the best option to lead this country, and protect the civil liberties, future, and well being of my family, my children, and my grandchildren. I will come out of that booth with a smile and clear conscious that I cast a vote for positive things I believe in, not a "lesser of two evils" vote that is killing the election process and the direction of this country.
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While I completely agree in principle and fully support the intent, the unfortunate reality is that this vote for the most part is meaningless. So while you are certainly free to hold to your beliefs, you should at least recognize that whether you cast your vote or not... the actual impact will be the same relative to the outcome of the election, and therefore will in no way help with those good things you believe in.
 
#304
#304
Scott Walker stood his ground pretty well. Odd what "the news" has turned into. (not excusing Fox here by the way).
 
#305
#305
Sad to see George H.W. is in too bad of health to attend. I forget how old he is sometimes. Mainly confined to a wheelchair these days.
 
#306
#306
PKT_VOL said:
Yep. I wish he has a bigger role in the GOP.
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Breaking news - she's a man baby!

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#308
#308
IBlvNTmWrk said:
While I completely agree in principle and fully support the intent, the unfortunate reality is that this vote for the most part is meaningless. So while you are certainly free to hold to your beliefs, you should at least recognize that whether you cast your vote or not... the actual impact will be the same relative to the outcome of the election, and therefore will in no way help with those good things you believe in.
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You have to make a stand at some point. Your argument is too easy. I fell for it last time (the first time I was eligible to vote). Thankfully, I wised up. It might be insignificant now (although it's looking like it might be a big deal in Colorado), it is a baby step in the right direction. Voting on your principles allows your conscience to rest.
 
#310
#310
ideological amnesia - interesting comments

wonder if David Gregory and Tom Brokaw will lead with similar examples for Obama.
 
#311
#311
IBlvNTmWrk said:
While I completely agree in principle and fully support the intent, the unfortunate reality is that this vote for the most part is meaningless. So while you are certainly free to hold to your beliefs, you should at least recognize that whether you cast your vote or not... the actual impact will be the same relative to the outcome of the election, and therefore will in no way help with those good things you believe in.
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The same principle applies to me voting for Romney just to vote against Obama. Say I do vote Romney and fist pump when Obama is unseated...

What happens when Romney starts going to (hypothetically) war in Syria or Iran. When he leaves Bernanke in charge. When he passes any bill against my civil liberties? When he raises the debt limit or bails out J.P. Morgan or other large companies? Will I then join the angry crowed and simply vote for whoever opposes him in 2016?

I still then, while voting against Obama, have supported just as many things I dislike with Romney.

Last election, I voted the lesser of two evils (barely) in McCain/Palin, and still regret it. At some I/we have to demand change, and accepting the status quo of one party to remove the status quo of another....isn't going to produce real change.
 
#313
#313
tvols75 said:
Can someone explain Matthews race baiting? I didn't get to see his moronic context.
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He said that speakers like Ryan, Martinez, etc. made specific reference to the founding of the country but since in our early years we had slavery, women couldn't vote, etc. - he interpreted that to mean they were somehow hostile to minorities since they didn't mention with reverence the civil rights movement. In short, since they didn't talk about how specific legislation enabled certain groups they are by definition racist.

never mind that one of the persons who didn't do this was the first Latino female to be a governor.
 
#314
#314
Mr_Henley said:
The same principle applies to me voting for Romney just to vote against Obama. Say I do vote Romney and fist pump when Obama is unseated...

What happens when Romney starts going to (hypothetically) war in Syria or Iran. When he leaves Bernanke in charge. When he passes any bill against my civil liberties? When he raises the debt limit or bails out J.P. Morgan or other large companies? Will I then join the angry crowed and simply vote for whoever opposes him in 2016?

I still then, while voting against Obama, have supported just as many things I dislike with Romney.

Last election, I voted the lesser of two evils (barely) in McCain/Palin, and still regret it. At some I/we have to demand change, and accepting the status quo of one party to remove the status quo of another....isn't going to produce real change.
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vote your conscious - it is all we can do.
 
#316
#316
tvols75 said:
Can someone explain Matthews race baiting? I didn't get to see his moronic context.
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among other things, Every time welfare or Medicaid gets mentioned, Mathews is basically saying its a code word and he's accusing the GOP of kicking nonwhites to the curb and playing to a white audience.
 
#317
#317
Gramps said:
Aaah you just not use to the MSNBC unbiased political news coverage....

it is the Place for Politics, you know.
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We all know Fox is slanted but MSNBC gets crunk with it.

What's surprising to me is when NBC folks - David Gregory in particularly - come on and pander to the MSNBC line. I seriously doubt he'll hold Obama to the same "ideological amnesia" standard.
 
#318
#318
PKT_VOL said:
You have to make a stand at some point. Your argument is too easy. I fell for it last time (the first time I was eligible to vote). Thankfully, I wised up. It might be insignificant now (although it's looking like it might be a big deal in Colorado), it is a baby step in the right direction. Voting on your principles allows your conscience to rest.
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Again, while I respect your beliefs... voting your principles in this election will have zero effect on improving the economy.

Mr_Henley said:
The same principle applies to me voting for Romney just to vote against Obama. Say I do vote Romney and fist pump when Obama is unseated...

What happens when Romney starts going to (hypothetically) war in Syria or Iran. When he leaves Bernanke in charge. When he passes any bill against my civil liberties? When he raises the debt limit or bails out J.P. Morgan or other large companies? Will I then join the angry crowed and simply vote for whoever opposes him in 2016?

I still then, while voting against Obama, have supported just as many things I dislike with Romney.

Last election, I voted the lesser of two evils (barely) in McCain/Palin, and still regret it. At some I/we have to demand change, and accepting the status quo of one party to remove the status quo of another....isn't going to produce real change.
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No issues here. If you clearly dislike both candidates equally, which seems to possibly be the case, then I wouldn't vote for either one of them. There are a number of things that I don't agree with Romney on as well. However, if I wait for a candidate that shares exactly the same values that I have, I won't be casting a vote for a long time. I want my vote to count, and as such I have to determine if one candidate represents my interests more than the other... even though it may only be a slight difference.
 
#319
#319
Just saw the promo for the pro-Obama documentary and one of the quotes from Obama in the promo is "sometimes, you have to set politics aside..." does this really inspire confidence that on occasion it's necessary to set politics aside?
 
#320
#320
I've said it before, there are obvious slants at both networks but the difference between Fox and MSNBC is that there are actual news people at Fox like Baier and Shepherd Smith who anchor election coverage as opposed to MSNBC where it's all analysts all the time masquerading as news anchors.
 
#322
#322
volinbham said:
We all know Fox is slanted but MSNBC gets crunk with it.

What's surprising to me is when NBC folks - David Gregory in particularly - come on and pander to the MSNBC line. I seriously doubt he'll hold Obama to the same "ideological amnesia" standard.
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Gregory became a political expert in his own mind the day he was named host of Meet the Press. He acted like the dumb assets he is until he got promoted.

I seriously think MSNBC and Fox are equals.

CNN is bias however they do have members from both parties as analysts.
 
#324
#324
GAVol said:
I've said it before, there are obvious slants at both networks but the difference between Fox and MSNBC is that there are actual news people at Fox like Baier and Shepherd Smith who anchor election coverage as opposed to MSNBC where it's all analysts all the time masquerading as news anchors.
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And a distinct lack of at least some hack from the other side to be the token resistance.
 
#325
#325
volinbham said:
vote your conscious - it is all we can do.
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but when I say I'm doing just that I get made fun of :)

posted this earlier in another thread but I still think it fits

Always vote for a principle, though you might vote alone, and you may cherish the sweet reflection that your vote is never lost.

- John Quincy Adams
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and ftr I'm heavily medicated and still can't understand what MSNBC thinks they're doing
 
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