We all left this guy out of the discussion of 10 best NBA players ever...which was a mistake. 5 titles, 3 time finals MVP, 15 times ALL-NBA, 15 time All star, ....15 time ALL NBA DEFENSIVE team. Nobody matches those in the stats. Ever. He also played backed in the days when a foul was only called in the paint if it drew blood or left a bruise (those are flagrant techs now with 2 shots and posession). His game was never flashy but its impossible to put Malone, Barkley, etc over him...there has never been a more effective or efficient power forward. The numbers don't lie. The Spurs win exactly zero of those 5 rings without him, either. On an all time starting 5....I guess Bird moves to the 3 spot at small forward and Tim plays the 4 spot. His double digit rebounds for 15 seasons, shot blocking, steals inside and 20plus per game on the blocks for 15 seasons make him the best power forward ever. Prove me wrong....