Official Jon Gruden Thread 37

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He closes.... He isn't on the road constantly recruiting players.

Thank you captain obvious. I was referring to Gruden only being involved to close a deal. As big as his name is, prospects are not just going to fall at his feet to come here. He will have to put some effort into it.
 
I do have a very hard time believing Gruden would coach a bowl game, at the outside chance we made one.

They going to put in a new system or run an old system the coaches don't know?

Yeah that kind of made me go 🤔.
 
OrangePill is trolling. It is impressive--but here's one giveaway: "Controlled leaks to begin on 11/20." What kind of BS is that? First, I doubt the subject of controlled leaks would come up in talks with anybody--but if it did, let's say, who would actually be privy to that much detail? Who would be privy to even half of the detail in his/her post? Would a single board member be told all that while talks are in progress--and remember all that? No--and no. Far too much detail--that is the giveaway. Troll.
 
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I think finebaum will gradually start leaning to UT, then when Saban retires, will jump on board the UT train completely. Would be good for his ratings, and that (ratings) is where his allegiance lies.

You are so right about this. He does not want to associate himself with us right now
 
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Enjoy... I'm not sure there is much more for me to find out at the moment. I'll let you know if I hear anything new, but at this point I believe we're just waiting for an announcement.

Buyout:
  • Buyout terms were agreed upon prior to the Tampa meeting.
  • Don't know the exact terms, but was told that it is "very open on both ends" allowing both sides an easy exit.
  • Gruden's agent initially wanted them to have a liquidated-damages clause of 0 and Tennessee wanted a mutual buyout. This was the eventual compromise.

Endorsements:
  • Since first contact a major source of contention has been Gruden's current and future endorsements.
  • Frankly I don't think my two sources know how this ended up turning out and they acted like it may still be an issue.
  • As best as I understand it, Gruden does not want Tennessee meddling in his endorsements, while Tennessee is adamant that he will need to drop endorsements.
  • I got the feeling money wasn't the issue, but it was more of an issue of principle with Gruden.

Additional contract info I picked up:
  • Gruden has an out-clause on his ESPN contract. No buyout.
  • Was told a contract length of 4 years by one person, other did not know.
  • 3 leased vehicles.
  • "Around 25" season tickets.
  • Bonus of 1m.
  • Not as heavily incentivized as rumors have said. Base salary is pretty close to total salary.
  • Around 9m with around 1.5m in bonuses.
  • I wasn't given exact numbers on the salary so I would take that number with a grain of salt.

Staff:
  • Most of the staff-related issues I referenced two days ago I found out centered around Tee Martin.
  • Gruden has placed a great deal of importance on Tee due to his recruiting prowess.
  • Gruden has made it clear that he does not want to be on the road recruiting every single free night, and he feels (whether right or wrong), that having Tee on staff will take a lot of that pressure off of him.
  • When Tee was contacted 2 weeks ago it appeared as if there would be little to no resistance on either side if Gruden was hired. Things became complicated late last week when Tee was contacted by Georgia Southern. Another source I talked to said he's also been contacted by UTEP, but I'm not as confident in that source.
  • Tee is currently in limbo and no one I talked to knows who a potential replacement would be.

Timing:
  • Gruden has no interest in coaching this year.
  • He will not coach vs. Vanderbilt regardless of when an announcement is made.
  • If we somehow win the next 2 games he would be involved in the bowl preparation.
  • Due to that he prefers an official announcement on 11/28, with controlled leaks beginning on 11/26.
  • As of 2 days ago the AD had pushed for an announcement on 11/21 with controlled leaks beginning on 11/20.
  • Not sure what they've agreed on to be honest.

Source Confidence that deal is done:
  • I was able to talk to 2 of my 3 sources face-to-face yesterday and they both say that the deal is done.
  • Last time I talked to my main source they seemed confident as well.
  • I have no reason to doubt them.


man, i don't no who you are, and i have no reason to doubt you. i sure do hope you are right.

just get it done and Go Vols!
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Morning, all!

Great post, OrangePill! Thanks!

You know, my thoughts this morning are with the Seniors. I hope they have a better experience with these last two games.

I’m trying to imagine how the PLAYERS SINCE DOOLEY will feel when Gruden is announced. If it were me, I’d be so sad that I spent my years with THE PAST TWO COACHES, while the younger players are gonna get Gruden.

FYP lol

Hopefully they’ll suck it up and become VFL ambassadors for the future because we need them...all of them!
 
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He said on radio the other day he would be getting to Seattle on Saturday.

After the UT game. He's in Ktown today for the game, book it!

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