Official Jon Gruden Thread II (merged)

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Wilson27 said:
Kind of surprised no one has come out and denied this even if it is true
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Seems to me since Gruden does have ties to UT, if he knew there was no chance of him taking the job he would distance himself from the standpoint that he wouldn't want his name drug into an already bad situation.:dunno:
 
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Wilson27 said:
One would think Hart would want to shoot down the Gruden thing quick because if it doesn't go thru then fans would be in for a big letdown and he would get the brunt of a lot of it.
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I don't know if he would or not, because if other schools view us as in the hunt, then maybe they look elsewhere for the time being. Just a thought.
 
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pattiycake said:
I know we cannot copy and paste from premium sites but as far as I know it is fine to copy and paste from there. Someone correct me if I am wrong...:)
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Copy/paste small portion and summarize while giving credit to the original author.


I wrote a ton of research/term papers.... Oh, it must be in APA footnote format.
 
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1. They would not need to have all of that money upfront to fire Dooley and hire another coach. Buyouts are not paid in a lump sum. Dooley is in big trouble and a big reason UT is losing money is because of lost football revenue. Unless there is a miraculous finish, he's gone. This is coming from family that I have in Knoxville that love and worship the Vols. I'm not pretending to know what is going on over there just because I watch college football.

2. If firing Dooley is imminent and Gruden wants to coach in college, him going to UT makes much, much more sense that him coming to Arkansas. And if he wants to coach bad enough (I don't think he'll be a life long TV guy), who's to say he wouldn't take less than 5 million? That number didn't come from him that's just Hogville speculation.

3. I don't know if some of you understand that the UT athletic budget has nothing to do with the money belonging to their bigtime donors. You don't think those guys are ready to pony up to hire a winner and fire Dooley? Do you not think they have just as many (if not more) of these money guys as we do? Of course they do, you just aren't familiar with them like you are ours.

4. Out of all the ties Gruden has to UT, you chose the bit about him owning land in East Tennessee to dismiss as just a rumor. I laugh at this because you are willing to argue with everyone about Gruden based on nothing more than rumor. If you read the rest of the post, there are many connections between Gruden and UT that are not rumor. The LEAST important piece of that list was him owning land there.

5. I think some of you guys want to believe this stuff so much, that you refuse to think about it logically. If your argument is only that UT can't afford to hire Gruden, you are simply wrong. Like I said before, the athletic budget is not where the money will be coming from.


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I believe either 1. Dooley is done...2. Dooley's continued employment is resting on the next two weeks....or 3. Hart is just so terrible with the public and Tennessee recruiting he is just going to sit back and let everyone squirm.

And I don't think it is #3...If he was planning on Dooley being here after 2012 he would have already said so. Hart is a proactive guy and is on top of things and most certainly this.
 
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Lowe said AGAIN today he knows Gruden would love to coach the Vols. Said the facilities and support were factors. He said that conversations have gone on. Also stated his personal belief is Gruden will take a NFL job. Said if a college could pull him it would be UT.

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gardners_51609 said:
I believe either 1. Dooley is done...2. Dooley's continued employment is resting on the next two weeks....or 3. Hart is just so terrible with the public and Tennessee recruiting he is just going to sit back and let everyone squirm.

And I don't think it is #3...If he was planning on Dooley being here after 2012 he would have already said so. Hart is a proactive guy and is on top of things and most certainly this.
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In Harts interview he basically said it when he said "We are about to have to make some choices to get our Football program going again". He could have easily said "We are headed in the right direction, we have our people in place" or about anything else to dismiss the outcry for Dooleys head. Instead he confirmed it without confirming it officially in my mind. Completely reaffirms everything I have been told and heard if I read into the interview correctly.
 
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volatil said:
Lowe said AGAIN today he knows Gruden would love to coach the Vols. Said the facilities and support were factors. He said that conversations have gone on. Also stated his personal belief is Gruden will take a NFL job. Said if a college could pull him it would be UT.

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Was this today?
 
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Obsessed said:
1. They would not need to have all of that money upfront to fire Dooley and hire another coach. Buyouts are not paid in a lump sum. Dooley is in big trouble and a big reason UT is losing money is because of lost football revenue. Unless there is a miraculous finish, he's gone. This is coming from family that I have in Knoxville that love and worship the Vols. I'm not pretending to know what is going on over there just because I watch college football.

2. If firing Dooley is imminent and Gruden wants to coach in college, him going to UT makes much, much more sense that him coming to Arkansas. And if he wants to coach bad enough (I don't think he'll be a life long TV guy), who's to say he wouldn't take less than 5 million? That number didn't come from him that's just Hogville speculation.

3. I don't know if some of you understand that the UT athletic budget has nothing to do with the money belonging to their bigtime donors. You don't think those guys are ready to pony up to hire a winner and fire Dooley? Do you not think they have just as many (if not more) of these money guys as we do? Of course they do, you just aren't familiar with them like you are ours.

4. Out of all the ties Gruden has to UT, you chose the bit about him owning land in East Tennessee to dismiss as just a rumor. I laugh at this because you are willing to argue with everyone about Gruden based on nothing more than rumor. If you read the rest of the post, there are many connections between Gruden and UT that are not rumor. The LEAST important piece of that list was him owning land there.

5. I think some of you guys want to believe this stuff so much, that you refuse to think about it logically. If your argument is only that UT can't afford to hire Gruden, you are simply wrong. Like I said before, the athletic budget is not where the money will be coming from.


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Wow some of them are smarter than the average Hog! :)
 
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gardners_51609 said:
I believe either 1. Dooley is done...2. Dooley's continued employment is resting on the next two weeks....or 3. Hart is just so terrible with the public and Tennessee recruiting he is just going to sit back and let everyone squirm.

And I don't think it is #3...If he was planning on Dooley being here after 2012 he would have already said so. Hart is a proactive guy and is on top of things and most certainly this.
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Here's a good scenario to consider:

The Vols unleash the Dooleywhacker 4 -4 -4 defense on bama and beat them by one on a last second field goal.

Then they travel to SC and early in the game, Spurrier thinks he got a bad call, so he gets that "Oh no, I'm a-dyin'" look on his face. Right about then Bray throws a frozen rope pass that hits Spurrier right in the face, knocking both his visor and that look off his face. And also knocking him out. And since neither team has a coach, the Vols win in an upset.

Then the next day, Dooley is let go and Gruden swoops in and begins assembling the best recruiting class in CFL history.

Everybody wins.

Who sez old folks cannot be optimistic?
 
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MWR said:
Here's a good scenario to consider:

The Vols unleash the Dooleywhacker 4 -4 -4 defense on bama and beat them by one on a last second field goal.

Then they travel to SC and early in the game, Spurrier thinks he got a bad call, so he gets that "Oh no, I'm a-dyin'" look on his face. Right about then Bray throws a frozen rope pass that hits Spurrier right in the face, knocking both his visor and that look off his face. And also knocking him out. And since neither team has a coach, the Vols win in an upset.

Then the next day, Dooley is let go and Gruden swoops in and begins assembling the best recruiting class in CFL history.

Everybody wins.

Who sez old folks cannot be optimistic?
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I knew you were pulling our legs when you suggested that we would actually convert on a field goal try. Nice effort though.
 
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gardners_51609 said:
BJD, if you are the original grudenite, when did your loyalty begin?

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I wanted him to replace Phil, then Kiffin and now it may happen with Dooley. I am not "the" original Grudenite but "a" original Grudenite. OG-B!!! and no sarcasm.
 
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