Official Jon Gruden Thread II (merged)

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Obviously Midtn, babyavi and fonz are only here for personal attacks. They have already admitted that they are no fan CDD. Just a couple smart azz's wanting to stir the pot. The old saying "ignore it and it will go away" will help. They are too insignificant it just doesn't matter.

I know, thats why he won't answer. Thanks
 
Well, yea. Kinda obvious if he losses to SC he's stuck at 7-5 as his ceiling. My point is that someone has lied to DTO if they told him Hart verbally fired the coach last week.

Again, I don't believe things just because one guy tells me. But when a totally unrelated source tells me the same thing, I start connecting the dots. When my trusted friend gives me info that only makes sense in the light of what I have heard. That pattern becomes quite clear.
 
He was told after the MSU game. I'm not here to say if it makes sense or not. And it did leak out. There are others who know this.

Secondly, the AD informs the coach and the staff WAY before the public knows.

All of this is beyond my sources of info. This came from several others. Boro knows and probably Jay too. My main source comes from at the whole thing from another side. :)

When things match up, a pattern is built.


Look I understand that you're just passing along info, but I'm telling you no one with 1/2 a brain would verbally fire the coach 6 games into the season. If the staff already knew, then the first sign would be recruits tweeting that UT coaches aren't calling anymore, or players saying coaches are 2-3 hours late, etc.

DD was not fired before today's game, period. Whoever told you or your friends is either been fed lies or is toying with you. Now if we lose bad next week, you'll get no argument from me the decision has been made.
 
He was told after the MSU game. I'm not here to say if it makes sense or not. And it did leak out. There are others who know this.

Secondly, the AD informs the coach and the staff WAY before the public knows.

All of this is beyond my sources of info. This came from several others. Boro knows and probably Jay too. My main source comes from at the whole thing from another side. :)

When things match up, a pattern is built.

Don't take this the wrong way, but now you're saying your source on this is other posters on this board? Can you point me to someone who isn't claiming a third-hand source that Dooley has been told that he's not being retained?
 
He was told after the MSU game. I'm not here to say if it makes sense or not. And it did leak out. There are others who know this.

Secondly, the AD informs the coach and the staff WAY before the public knows.

All of this is beyond my sources of info. This came from several others. Boro knows and probably Jay too. My main source comes from at the whole thing from another side. :)

When things match up, a pattern is built.

Look I understand that you're just passing along info, but I'm telling you no one with 1/2 a brain would verbally fire the coach 6 games into the season. If the staff already knew, then the first sign would be recruits tweeting that UT coaches aren't calling anymore, or players saying coaches are 2-3 hours late, etc.

DD was not fired before today's game, period. Whoever told you or your friends is either been fed lies or is toying with you. Now if we lose bad next week, you'll get no argument from me the decision has been made.
 
Don't take this the wrong way, but now you're saying your source on this is other posters on this board? Can you point me to someone who isn't claiming a third-hand source that Dooley has been told that he's not being retained?

No my source isn't other posters on this board. Like I said earlier, in not a UT insider. But a first hand account of other things happening only make sense if other stuff were true.
 
Don't keep adding stipulations to your post. Am I a troll?

:lol: Dont talk at me like you're my father. I already told you I don't know if you are or not. I don't believe I called you one. But of you can answer my question I'll be happy to let you know if you fit my definition.
 
Look I understand that you're just passing along info, but I'm telling you no one with 1/2 a brain would verbally fire the coach 6 games into the season. If the staff already knew, then the first sign would be recruits tweeting that UT coaches aren't calling anymore, or players saying coaches are 2-3 hours late, etc.

DD was not fired before today's game, period. Whoever told you or your friends is either been fed lies or is toying with you. Now if we lose bad next week, you'll get no argument from me the decision has been made.

This has been brewing well before this season started. Dooley has made enemies with the wrong people and that doesn't work when you are losing.
 
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:lol: Dont talk at me like you're my father. I already told you I don't know if you are or not. I don't believe I called you one. But of you can answer my question I'll be happy to let you know if you fit my definition.

I've asked you approximately 4 times if I am a troll. I have told you that I have posted info on this thread about Gruden. I really don't know what other information that you require for your world. So for the 5th time, Am I a troll?
 
No my source isn't other posters on this board. Like I said earlier, in not a UT insider. But a first hand account of other things happening only make sense if other stuff were true.

I'm confused as to what you meant by outside your sources of info? Also, you mention Jay as someone who knows about Dooley having already been told. Is that accurate?
 
I'm confused as to what you meant by outside your sources of info? Also, you mention Jay as someone who knows about Dooley having already been told. Is that accurate?

Well Fonz you've been asking for proof of info and now you don't want it? Strange. I'll stand with what DTO tells you.
 
This has been brewing well before this season started. Dooley has made enemies with the wrong people and that doesn't work when you are losing.

No disagreement there. I remember the spat with the donor who coughed up millions for the new football complex; DD does have an usual style in dealing with important people. My whole point in this: yea, he's prob gone. But to say he was already informed before today is nuts. Someone also pointed out the very, very first thing that would spread rumors is the staff making calls to find landing spots...word would spread like wildfire Bottom line is you can't keep something like that under wraps.
 
I've asked you approximately 4 times if I am a troll. I have told you that I have posted info on this thread about Gruden. I really don't know what other information that you require for your world. So for the 5th time, Am I a troll?

And I've responded five times that I don't know if you are a troll or not. Would you like me just to make something up?

If you want to answer my question, which defines the trolls I am calling out, then I'll gladly let you know if I consider you a troll. Otherwise, I'm unsure of exactly what you're trying to prove with this line of conversation.
 
No disagreement there. I remember the spat with the donor who coughed up millions for the new football complex; DD does have an usual style in dealing with important people. My whole point in this: yea, he's prob gone. But to say he was already informed before today is nuts. Someone also pointed out the very, very first thing that would spread rumors is the staff making calls to find landing spots...word would spread like wildfire Bottom line is you can't keep something like that under wraps.

Last 2 sentences. Bingo. :)
Agents are working.
 
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