Official Jon Gruden Thread II (merged)

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bcartervol98 said:
Funny how as soon as people are not posting every 5 minutes the world is over. No one I have talked to today feel any differently than before.

The facts seem to be fairly straightforward and widely reported that contact has been made, and many have reported both publicly and privately that money is not a concern apparently. It has also been widely reported that there is mutual interest. Different people will say different things but one thing that is a fact is no one truly knows the results until there is an announcement.

No one I have talked to today at work seem to think anything has changed as far as our "chances" of getting Gruden but anyone looking for a definitive timeline or confirmation that it is 100% done are inviting themselves to get trolled because nothing is definitive right now. Not even Dooleys tenure sad to say given it is still mathematically possible to attain 8 reg season wins regardless of the "odds" or "likelihood" it could happen.

I just hope those in the negotiations-talks whatever stage it is in are more patient than some of us on here lol.
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If Gruden is a possibility, regardless of Dooley's record at the end of the season... he's gone. He could win out and if Gruden is willing to come, he's gone. You don't pass up that type of coach to keep Dooley around.
 
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smokeyhuntsgators said:
Well-done,sir.:salute:
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Grazie Madam :hi:

I get the impression that several of our more connected and outspoken members may have been the recipient of a "DIY Home Silencer Kit", namely a piece of black electrical tape intended to be applied to one's lips. Possibly delivered by black helicopters and / or G-Men.
 
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Leopold Stotch said:
Nothing has convinced me that we have enough money to work with. We haven't shown any willingness to throw around big dollars for a name coach ever. It's honestly depressing.
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What are you talking about?

Fulmer's last staff was making 4.7 million in their final season. They followed that up by hiring a young NFL coach that recently lost his job. They paid his defensive coordinator 1.2 million which came to a total of 5.3 million for the entire staff. If you're talking about the Dooley hire, you're seriously confused. Lane Kiffin was coming off his only college season as a head a coach(7-6) and even USC had to give him 4 million dollars to get a coach through their doors. That's what happens when you're left scrambling with no time to find a coach. If you honestly believe we hired Dooley because the school was being cheap and not because they were left scrambling to find a coach at the last second, I don't know what to tell you.

I'm sorry you're so depressed about Tennessee hiring Dooley because that was the only option at the time. It has nothing to do with not being willing to spend money though. Maybe watching South Park will cheer you up.
 
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One thing that hasn't been discussed is the family dynamic with Gruden. Would he really want to move closer to his in-laws? How would his wife feel about leaving sunny FL to be close to family? How would a move like this impact his kids? I think these questions will be bigger than the money for Gruden.

Anyone have insight?
 
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ATLVols said:
One thing that hasn't been discussed is the family dynamic with Gruden. Would he really want to move closer to his in-laws? How would his wife feel about leaving sunny FL to be close to family? How would a move like this impact his kids? I think these questions will be bigger than the money for Gruden.
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He travels all the time for ESPN. At least he'd be home with his family.

By that logic, he wouldn't take another NFL gig either.
 
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Gator H8R said:
So turning the ball over 3 times after multiple 3 and outs late in the UGA game isnt a problem?

Each side of the ball has had its fair share of miscues. Each could have been avoided with good coaching.
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It's not ideal but I wouldn't say it's why we lost. We scored over 40 pts. Can't ask for much more from the O. The offense is much better than last year. We're finally running the ball. Every team is gona have 3 and outs and turnovers. This isn't about arguing for or against Dooley. All I sad is that I believe that if he had a little more time, that I think he can get the job done. Weather he deserves that time or not, is not up to me. If the trigger is gonna be pulled, I want is sooner rather than later so the team can move on.
 
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f77f00 said:
Grazie Madam :hi:

I get the impression that several of our more connected and outspoken members may have been the recipient of a "DIY Home Silencer Kit", namely a piece of black electrical tape intended to be applied to one's lips. Possibly delivered by black helicopters and / or G-Men.
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I imagine the only ones that truly know what's going on is a handful of major boosters and Dave Hart. Even if Gruden did decline I can't imagine them not making a counter offer.
 
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bray8 said:
the report today was that he declined, that is simply not true, this is an attempt to keep publicity off of gruden and tennessee while they iron out the details, as of this moment they are actively talking.
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I can see that, since the media is slowly catching on.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
Funny how as soon as people are not posting every 5 minutes the world is over. No one I have talked to today feel any differently than before.

The facts seem to be fairly straightforward and widely reported that contact has been made, and many have reported both publicly and privately that money is not a concern apparently. It has also been widely reported that there is mutual interest. Different people will say different things but one thing that is a fact is no one truly knows the results until there is an announcement.

No one I have talked to today at work seem to think anything has changed as far as our "chances" of getting Gruden but anyone looking for a definitive timeline or confirmation that it is 100% done are inviting themselves to get trolled because nothing is definitive right now. Not even Dooleys tenure sad to say given it is still mathematically possible to attain 8 reg season wins regardless of the "odds" or "likelihood" it could happen.

I just hope those in the negotiations-talks whatever stage it is in are more patient than some of us on here lol.
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Actually it's still mathematically possible to attain 9 regular season wins, but that doesn't change the analysis any really.
 
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I'll say this: If Dave Hart lands Jon Gruden, he'll be a legend at UT. And he knows it. It would secure his job for a very, very long time.
 
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Can't see any reason to be anything but excited for our future. Soon Spurrier will retire and South Caronlina will go back to being...well...South Carolina. UG always seems soft. Hell, they tried their best to give us that game this year. When we are good we handle the Bulldogs that is our history. With Gruden, without Gruden we WILL get it right. Football is cyclical. All major powers have been down for years at some point and we have been no different. There is an orange wave coming for the SEC and no one is watching for it!
 
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I'm hearing the hold up is that Gruden, being a broadcaster, wants to be BOTH the head coach and Voice of the Vols. He'd sit in the press box and announce the game as he's coaching. Solves two problems for the Vols . . . . . .gets rid of Dooley AND Kesling.;):D
 
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I think we need to just calm down for a while, everything is going to be ok. College boosters and supporters work under a vail of secreacy all the time its not unusual. I for one appreciate the info that has been able to be put out here. If there is too much noise beening raised the info will stop flowing. Wait a few weeks til after the SC game. Some of our media like Ainge will probably give up more info then and probably confirm some of what we are hearing now. HEck even Basilio may be able to tell us more.
The more noise we make, the more it hurts our chances of getting accurate info. Trust those that have shared solid info so far and temper our enthusiasm for a while.
 
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jdogvol said:
I'm hearing the hold up is that Gruden, being a broadcaster, wants to be BOTH the head coach and Voice of the Vols. He'd sit in the press box and announce the game as he's coaching. Solves two problems for the Vols . . . . . .gets rid of Dooley AND Kesling.;):D
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You mean you don't like Bill Keesling...Bart Mesling.....Bob Kessler....check that Bob Kesling?:p
 
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TOP said:
What are you talking about?

Fulmer's last staff was making 4.7 million in their final season. They followed that up by hiring a young NFL coach that recently lost his job. They paid his defensive coordinator 1.2 million which came to a total of 5.3 million for the entire staff. If you're talking about the Dooley hire, you're seriously confused. Lane Kiffin was coming off his only college season as a head a coach(7-6) and even USC had to give him 4 million dollars to get a coach through their doors. That's what happens when you're left scrambling with no time to find a coach. If you honestly believe we hired Dooley because the school was being cheap and not because they were left scrambling to find a coach at the last second, I don't know what to tell you.

I'm sorry you're so depressed about Tennessee hiring Dooley because that was the only option at the time. It has nothing to do with not being willing to spend money though. Maybe watching South Park will cheer you up.
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Thank you for your factual and logical response. I feel better now. And watching South Park always cheers me up.
 
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