Official Jon Gruden Thread II (merged)

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GreyWolf1129 said:
It's tough to separate truth from BS on the Internet, but the persistent stories about Dooley being a control freak; not an "X & O" guy; not a players' coach; etc. really bother me. If true, it explains a lot, including Dooleys' apparent inability to dial in a coaching staff.

Go Vols.
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I hear you.
All of these stories make you seriously question how he could get a head coaching job anywhere much less at Tennessee.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
From a recruiting standpoint what would have to be done to keep the class from falling apart?
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This class is not that great. Chucky comes in and that changes for the better. Tennessee is still Tennessee and will attract recruits. Add a good coach and we can get back on top there as well without the excuses.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
It's tough to separate truth from BS on the Internet, but the persistent stories about Dooley being a control freak; not an "X & O" guy; not a players' coach; etc. really bother me. If true, it explains a lot, including Dooleys' apparent inability to dial in a coaching staff.

Go Vols.
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I wish my boy I played in HS with that was a 4 year SEC starter, ALL SEC, and worked with Dooley at LSU would post here. He still works at LSU and has for a long time. I trust his opinions more than anyone, have tried to get him. He gives me tidbits but man he has some stories about Dooley basically being Nicks "paperwork" coach and how he saw him as a bright, intelligent, well spoken hard worker that posed ZERO threat to his job. He refers to him as a blue blood every other sentence. This has long been my biggest problem with Dooley, he has the management part down, but may take 10 years or more to get the leadership role down.

Ask yourself this, how many 30-40 somethings do you know with hugely successful and wealthy parents that are cut from the same cloth their successful parent is? I find most to be spoiled, entitled, and not great leaders. They put too much stake in genetics and contacts opening their doors and rarely build a record to point to.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
I have way too much to do with work to be wasting my time or yours. When I hear something I post it, not for e-cred but to share info and try and figure out what is going on. Thats what a forum is, an anonymous sharing of ideas. I could never do it on facebook, people do not trust you if you name names. Its the anonymity here that allows free exchange of ideas and information.

I have never understood people that go out of their way to call others out over things they obviously know nothing about. And let me be clear, if your position is that "John Gruden has not been contacted and would never come here" it is obvious how clueless some people are. I have no direct information about the offer or conversation but would state my life it has and is happening.

And the Randy Shannon thing, lol if they knew how close it was to happening and what kind of falling out it caused between Dooley and Hart, and how close it was to happening regardless. Lets just say someone I know already had his vehicle set aside by request of the Director of Transportation for him, what HE asked for. It was literally an 11th hour snag that cost us a great DC, and Dooley had his hands all over it. It cracks me up to hear people say "Well Shannon was a done deal too" when it was so close to being done they already had his vehicle lined up.
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Yea. Not sure why people care so much. But your OK with me, not that means a lot. But, I am from Memphis too. So there you go...
 
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Blackmarket803 said:
Why are you here?
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Blackmarket803 said:
Why are you here?
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Sparty is the inaugural member in my ignore list, I hate to ignore anyone since dissenting opinions often add to the dialogue but the "tongue in cheek" bigoted comment he made about me last night crossed the line. He can call me a liar but making those types of comments about my family pissed me off more than at any time coming on VN.

At least its not just me he is an ass hat to.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
Sparty is the inaugural member in my ignore list, I hate to ignore anyone since dissenting opinions often add to the dialogue but the "tongue in cheek" bigoted comment he made about me last night crossed the line. He can call me a liar but making those types of comments about my family pissed me off more than at any time coming on VN.

At least its not just me he is an ass hat to.
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Ftr, he is on my ignore list too, and one of the other members of my infamous list hasn't made an appearance in the new JG thread.:whistling:
 
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bcartervol98 said:
Sparty is the inaugural member in my ignore list, I hate to ignore anyone since dissenting opinions often add to the dialogue but the "tongue in cheek" bigoted comment he made about me last night crossed the line. He can call me a liar but making those types of comments about my family pissed me off more than at any time coming on VN.

At least its not just me he is an ass hat to.
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Good idea Carter, he'll be the first on my list too.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
Sparty is the inaugural member in my ignore list, I hate to ignore anyone since dissenting opinions often add to the dialogue but the "tongue in cheek" bigoted comment he made about me last night crossed the line. He can call me a liar but making those types of comments about my family pissed me off more than at any time coming on VN.

At least its not just me he is an ass hat to.
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Yep. People pretty much get really pissed when they get busted making up bs on here, don't they. My sister is black, and my nephews, so call me bigoted again, da.

And let us know more inside info from your cousin who starts for the team when you can. Please give us the inside scoop from your make believe world.
 
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Blackmarket803 said:
Good idea Carter, he'll be the first on my list too.
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I have another suggestion for your ignore list, and you probably know who I'm talking about...Hint:he keeps saying that Gruden will NEVER coach at UT.,,I had to add him to that list b/c of our "disagreement"..Not sure if you were on here that day..He said that I was bullying him.:blink:
 
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smokeyhuntsgators said:
Ftr, he is on my ignore list too, and one of the other members of my infamous list hasn't made an appearance in the new JG thread.:whistling:
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My impression of who you are talking about...


Hey grubes!
Has AD Hart announced Gruden as HC?
Didn't think so! Lol

Gruden will never come here!

GBO VFL Dooley is god!
 
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smokeyhuntsgators said:
Ftr, he is on my ignore list too, and one of the other members of my infamous list hasn't made an appearance in the new JG thread.:whistling:
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Well I made the ill advised comment that my cousin is a Jr on this years team which is 100% true. I may have called him a "starter" when although he has started before he is not #1 on the depth chart. He did his $2 detective work and said since I am white, not sure how he thinks he knows that, so either I am lying or someone in my family had "Jungle Fever". My wife is mixed, I am about as liberal as it comes and do not see race at all. People that do piss me off, but you only know when they open their mouth. We are all surrounded by bigotry but we do not even recognize when someone is of a different race or nationality Its how we have raised our kids and how we live our lives.

Its one thing to call someone a liar over something stupid, its something else entirely to show your "true colors" and make such a bigoted comment.

This is football, no reason to make it personal.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Yep. People pretty much get really pissed when they get busted making up bs on here, don't they. My sister is black, and my nephews, so call me bigoted again, da.

And let us know more inside info from your cousin who starts for the team when you can. Please give us the inside scoop from your make believe world.
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So what part of South Memphis are you from? My dad is a Scrapper.
 
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