Official Jon Gruden Thread IX

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OSVolFan said:
You can disagree, but unless you have a source within HR at a state run university, more specifically at UT to provide for a direct rebuttal .......... We will have to agree to disagree.

As soon as I brought it up to my wife I buckled down for what I knew would be a LONG answer, and it was. I just provided a shortened version of the long answer. ID rather be poked in the eye than listen to an HR answer normally btw.

You can believe what you want, but I am confident in what I provided the board.
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I do have plenty of experience and contacts as you say. I believe parts of those procedural rules are flexible just not as you say nonexistent. An ad can't just hire anybody anyway at anytime he wants as your post said
 
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OSVolFan said:
You can disagree, but unless you have a source within HR at a state run university, more specifically at UT to provide for a direct rebuttal .......... We will have to agree to disagree.

As soon as I brought it up to my wife I buckled down for what I knew would be a LONG answer, and it was. I just provided a shortened version of the long answer. ID rather be poked in the eye than listen to an HR answer normally btw.

You can believe what you want, but I am confident in what I provided the board.
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I would say you are correct. It is the most logical explanation that I have seen.
 
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volatil said:
Bruin, you crack me up. You have to analyse every little detail. I hope you are a judge, prosecutor, or District Attorney. Again, I respect those who don't just blindly follow.
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Congrats on the job!!!!! Lots to be thankful for!!
 
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BruinVol said:
My opinion is the time the job must be posted before filling is the only flexible part of the process. Three interviews must be conducted no matter what but they can be done on the phone. So that shouldn't matter.

Is the job posted by the university yet??
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I would think the Hart Presser on Sunday terminating the employment of Derek Dooley would suffice as a job opening.
 
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BruinVol said:
I do have plenty of experience and contacts as you say. I believe parts of those procedural rules are flexible just not as you say nonexistent. An ad can't just hire anybody anyway he wants as your post said
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With the right attorneys and a pile of money, everything is flexible.
 
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GmanTN said:
I would think the Hart Presser on Sunday terminating the employment of Derek Dooley would suffice as a job opening.
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I am talking a legal posting of the job on the website.

Some athletic departments will drag their feet officially posting the job so they can purposely delay the process. If gruden doesn't want this happening so quickly that could happen and then the AD stand behind these procedural rules. Hart could claim that its a new set of timetable rules under his direction if he needs to buy time.
 
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OSVolFan said:
Good morning Grudenites. I read several pages from last night and thought I could provide some clarification of HR guidelines at a state run institution. My wife is second in charge in HR at a state run institution.

She says the athletic department plays by a different set of rules typically. One that would allow a direct hire without normal interviewing and even posting procedures. (I.E Dooley when Kiffin bolted)

In short, UT can hire who they want, how they want, when they want, in this specific case. Hope this helps.

Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving to all!
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After reading this post I believe there is a possibility that SBV may be correct.

There is No Law that requires them to post this job..SBV in answer to a question about it said.. he was trying to calm people down because there would be other coaches interviewed not named Gruden. He also said that there is a processs that the AD is going to follow.

My thinking is......This process may be self imposeed by the AD office but not required by law.
 
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Dooley is a lawyer, perhaps they want to make sure every T is crossed and i dotted, not sure it would matter though, everyone knows Dooley has no defense.
 
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GmanTN said:
Dooley is a lawyer, perhaps they want to make sure every T is crossed and i dotted, not sure it would matter though, everyone knows Dooley has no defense.
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I'm no stalking you, but you and I are playing at the same table this morning!!

Damn good point
 
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GmanTN said:
I would think the Hart Presser on Sunday terminating the employment of Derek Dooley would suffice as a job opening.
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Morning Gman....

I believe this Ad is simply going to do what he wants to do and his rules are what matters.

I just hope that means we announce in the morning at 8 am LOL

PS. I know that is to early but geeeee I want to see it happen
 
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Coastypop said:
I tried to ask this question last night but was rebuffed.
I agree that this does not add up. I would never say SBV was not a an accurate poster...but this is just not correct unless there is something about the Dooley hire that would allow for an early hire??
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Coasty, SBV posted that it had to be up for ten days and people ha to be interviewed. Them someone brought up Dooley being hired within three days after Kiffen. Then someone posted he was "hired" with an MOU and that people were actually interviewed after he was announced to make it legal. SBV then said that is 100% correct and later stated he said that because he doesn't want people to get worried when they hear other names being interviewed. Look up SBV's posts and it will become clear for you.
 
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Coastypop said:
After reading this post I believe there is a possibility that SBV may be correct.

There is No Law that requires them to post this job..SBV in answer to a question about it said.. he was trying to calm people down because there would be other coaches interviewed not named Gruden. He also said that there is a processs that the AD is going to follow.

My thinking is......This process may be self imposeed by the AD office but not required by law.
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Your saying the job doesn't have to be posted???

If your right then my knowledge is completely off base
 
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