Official Jon Gruden Thread VI

[bcartervol98]

Even that sounds ridiculous.

When all is said and done IF there is an agreement to be reached with Gruden the base will be no more than 4.5-5m with the rest coming from incentives like bowl games, SECCG, and BCS bowls, etc...

 

[VonVol]

The Others Cometh

"Smokescreen" "Smoke monster". Helllooooo! Just connecting the dots here.

 

[Coastypop]

15 years ago I had admiration for a player that I thought may have been one person who really understood what it meant to play SEC football and craved with all of his being to be a true Tennessee Volunteer. He understood that our brand of football in the south as a true religion. When I say a true Volunteer I think in the lines of Al Wilson, Dale Jones, Johnny Majors, Kevin Mays, Eric Berry and several other players that I know who would refuse to lose at all costs. But this one particular player went on the national stage and told everyone everywhere that it truly is, "Great to be a Tennessee Volunteer." He did it over and over again often making us think how special it is to be a Volunteer at UT and be from this great state, even though he was not from here. He appreciated the history of the program and displayed total class in promoting it.

At his last game in Neyland Stadium I was awed at how proud we were of him and thought that he probably could never perceive the love in that stadium after beating the crap out of Vanderbilt on that cloudy day. We witnessed something special that afternoon as he acknowledged every section of that stadium with his team mates before he left the field by waving that large power T orange flag in a salute. If you were not a Vol fan that day, you would have left as one. I felt a debt of gratitude to that player that afternoon that really helped me to understand why I have been such a Vol fan for so many years before and after his time here. Kids everywhere look up to him now.

At that particular time I thought that this was something special and we would probably never have an opportunity to benefit from his love as a Volunteer at this level again. BUT IF the rumors are true about his possible personal and financial involvement to help us raise up from the ash heap of the last 5-6 years then his love for this program is much greater than I ever realized during his playing days. AND that debt of gratitude that we owed him 15 years ago is small to what we owe him for his love now.

I know there are many people of means that are helping bail us out and I appreciate the sacrifice that each of them may be making for this program. I never understood how people can hate success in this country and it is hate I see. Most successful people are responsible and generous in many ways.

But Peyton Manning, you are truly a Vol for Life, and we appreciate you now more than ever. You are at a point in your life where you could watch the sports reports and laugh about what is happening in Knoxville. But your love for the program and the school and the tradition of SEC football would never allow that to happen. I know that you probably could care less about who gets the credit, but thanks for caring and helping us when we need it most. We will never forget!!!![/QUOTE]

:good!: :salute:

 

[DocVol]

Even that sounds ridiculous.

Not that far fetched at all to make him the highest paid coach by far AND to get him out of the booth/away from his already $5+/yr for MNF/ESPN

 

[Ertel]

And I threw away 10 tickets in section S and two parking passes in lot 9. That was a first, gave them to my sons martial arts academy and they couldn't even use them. Got them back Sat morning but no time to give them to anyone else.

my general manager has 14 season tickets. 4 in the front row, 35 yardline behind the home bench, 4 on the second row directly behind them. Four on the 50 25 rows up on the away side and two on the 20 yardline front row upper deck and he couldn't give them away. He himself is refusing to go until dooley is gone. Such a sad state for our program to be in

 

[99bubble]

15 years ago I had admiration for a player that I thought may have been one person who really understood what it meant to play SEC football and craved with all of his being to be a true Tennessee Volunteer. He understood that our brand of football in the south as a true religion. When I say a true Volunteer I think in the lines of Al Wilson, Dale Jones, Johnny Majors, Kevin Mays, Eric Berry and several other players that I know who would refuse to lose at all costs. But this one particular player went on the national stage and told everyone everywhere that it truly is, "Great to be a Tennessee Volunteer." He did it over and over again often making us think how special it is to be a Volunteer at UT and be from this great state, even though he was not from here. He appreciated the history of the program and displayed total class in promoting it.

At his last game in Neyland Stadium I was awed at how proud we were of him and thought that he probably could never perceive the love in that stadium after beating the crap out of Vanderbilt on that cloudy day. We witnessed something special that afternoon as he acknowledged every section of that stadium with his team mates before he left the field by waving that large power T orange flag in a salute. If you were not a Vol fan that day, you would have left as one. I felt a debt of gratitude to that player that afternoon that really helped me to understand why I have been such a Vol fan for so many years before and after his time here. Kids everywhere look up to him now.

At that particular time I thought that this was something special and we would probably never have an opportunity to benefit from his love as a Volunteer at this level again. BUT IF the rumors are true about his possible personal and financial involvement to help us raise up from the ash heap of the last 5-6 years then his love for this program is much greater than I ever realized during his playing days. AND that debt of gratitude that we owed him 15 years ago is small to what we owe him for his love now.

I know there are many people of means that are helping bail us out and I appreciate the sacrifice that each of them may be making for this program. I never understood how people can hate success in this country and it is hate I see. Most successful people are responsible and generous in many ways.

But Peyton Manning, you are truly a Vol for Life, and we appreciate you now more than ever. You are at a point in your life where you could watch the sports reports and laugh about what is happening in Knoxville. But your love for the program and the school and the tradition of SEC football would never allow that to happen. I know that you probably could care less about who gets the credit, but thanks for caring and helping us when we need it most. We will never forget!!!!

Well said my man. Peyton enjoyed every second here and I look forward to the day when he visits often, coaches some, and doesn't have to get a damn pass to step on the field!

 

[SLOVNT]

When all is said and done IF there is an agreement to be reached with Gruden the base will be no more than 4.5-5m with the rest coming from incentives like bowl games, SECCG, and BCS bowls, etc...

:lolabove: Smokescreen. imojmotifwiw. Jk

We're good.

 

[Vol_Doc]

When all is said and done IF there is an agreement to be reached with Gruden the base will be no more than 4.5-5m with the rest coming from incentives like bowl games, SECCG, and BCS bowls, etc...

That would make more sense, but still don't think UT will make an offer that high.

 

[RagingOrange]

Unless in the last week or two UT has completely changed the counsel they use to draft legal agreements without telling anyone this is just incorrect. We will see I guess. Its this kind of thing being reported that makes me question everything since I am very close with the legal professionals that would draft such an agreement and know there is not any sort of MOU in place.

No offense carter, because I have appreciated your info and stance from the get-go, but I have a question.

If I were a bazillionaire trying to keep things quiet, I dont think I would use a UT sponsored legal team to draft such an agreement. This may be why your people are out of sync.

I would go with someone I hold a little closer to heart given the amount of money I am ponying up. So the question is, Would it be possible to have a MOU in place, not sanctioned by UT, that would serve as a placeholder until an official UT represented form is completed when the appropriate time comes?

Im thinking business transaction vs. UTAD transaction at this point.

What do you say? Or am I full on 'tard?

 

[DocVol]

Unless in the last week or two UT has completely changed the counsel they use to draft legal agreements without telling anyone this is just incorrect. We will see I guess. Its this kind of thing being reported that makes me question everything since I am very close with the legal professionals that would draft such an agreement and know there is not any sort of MOU in place.

Wish I had answers to the legal side of things but I don't. The above is all I have regarding an agreement.

 

[VolCrash33]

What happened on the rundown on espn that was "graphic"?

 

[Jake]

Ill address sources. I won't say names, with the exception of Danomite, as he has already put himself out there. The connections i backchecked were in the AD, media, and more that are close to not just Gruden, but other high profile people close to the deal. Had a loooot of requests on my info, and developed a lot of interesting connections.

What other points would you like expanded?

Are the folks in the AD that you confirmed, simply office employees or administrators? Not to belittle "simple employees" at all...just differentiating between small talk in the break room and administrative conversation.

And btw...thank you for your willingness to clarify these variables!! 👍

 

[Godfatha]

15 years ago I had admiration for a player that I thought may have been one person who really understood what it meant to play SEC football and craved with all of his being to be a true Tennessee Volunteer. He understood that our brand of football in the south as a true religion. When I say a true Volunteer I think in the lines of Al Wilson, Dale Jones, Johnny Majors, Kevin Mays, Eric Berry and several other players that I know who would refuse to lose at all costs. But this one particular player went on the national stage and told everyone everywhere that it truly is, "Great to be a Tennessee Volunteer." He did it over and over again often making us think how special it is to be a Volunteer at UT and be from this great state, even though he was not from here. He appreciated the history of the program and displayed total class in promoting it.

At his last game in Neyland Stadium I was awed at how proud we were of him and thought that he probably could never perceive the love in that stadium after beating the crap out of Vanderbilt on that cloudy day. We witnessed something special that afternoon as he acknowledged every section of that stadium with his team mates before he left the field by waving that large power T orange flag in a salute. If you were not a Vol fan that day, you would have left as one. I felt a debt of gratitude to that player that afternoon that really helped me to understand why I have been such a Vol fan for so many years before and after his time here. Kids everywhere look up to him now.

At that particular time I thought that this was something special and we would probably never have an opportunity to benefit from his love as a Volunteer at this level again. BUT IF the rumors are true about his possible personal and financial involvement to help us raise up from the ash heap of the last 5-6 years then his love for this program is much greater than I ever realized during his playing days. AND that debt of gratitude that we owed him 15 years ago is small to what we owe him for his love now.

I know there are many people of means that are helping bail us out and I appreciate the sacrifice that each of them may be making for this program. I never understood how people can hate success in this country and it is hate I see. Most successful people are responsible and generous in many ways.

But Peyton Manning, you are truly a Vol for Life, and we appreciate you now more than ever. You are at a point in your life where you could watch the sports reports and laugh about what is happening in Knoxville. But your love for the program and the school and the tradition of SEC football would never allow that to happen. I know that you probably could care less about who gets the credit, but thanks for caring and helping us when we need it most. We will never forget!!!!

They'll never be another Peyton Manning, that's for sure. I remember the day he committed and how excited everyone was. I remember hearing the stories of him training with the Saints, and they were impressed with him at that early age. But beyond his ability, he is truly class and an amazing representative of the University. How anyone who is a UT fan could hate on Manning is beyond me. The guy is one of the few who deserves all the hype that he gets.

 

[DocVol]

When all is said and done IF there is an agreement to be reached with Gruden the base will be no more than 4.5-5m with the rest coming from incentives like bowl games, SECCG, and BCS bowls, etc...

Gruden will not come here for "$4.5-5m".

 

[rkvdg]

I've been MIA for the last few days for work-related reasons. But I'll give you the updated info that I have following the Mizzou game:

I am still solid on Gruden to the Vols as well as Dooley having known he will not return next season for at least 2+ weeks now. Following the MIzzou game, there obviously was a larger uprising from fans and other boosters about why the firing of DD hadnt taken place. The answer that was given to me (from the same person who still holds steadfast to the $6M+/yr offering and acceptance to Gruden) was that the ONLY reason that the firing of DD has not been made public is due ONLY to the fact that Gruden is already on board and locked up 100% (MOU signed to be the next HC). There is no other reason for waiting.
Hart would not risk waiting until the end of the season to make a move IF Gruden were not committed to being here. This also allows Gruden to finish up his MNF obligations for the season.
Don't panic and know that this is still the way it was scripted and is supposed to pan out. Hart has been deliberate in his actions but everything is still on track.
Also, even of you see an announced, "Coach Search" by the university, don't be alarmed. It will be just a formality at that point.

Can I get a hallelujah from the crowd.

 

[Coastypop]

I've been MIA for the last few days for work-related reasons. But I'll give you the updated info that I have following the Mizzou game:

I am still solid on Gruden to the Vols as well as Dooley having known he will not return next season for at least 2+ weeks now. Following the MIzzou game, there obviously was a larger uprising from fans and other boosters about why the firing of DD hadnt taken place. The answer that was given to me (from the same person who still holds steadfast to the $6M+/yr offering and acceptance to Gruden) was that the ONLY reason that the firing of DD has not been made public is due ONLY to the fact that Gruden is already on board and locked up 100% (MOU signed to be the next HC). There is no other reason for waiting.
Hart would not risk waiting until the end of the season to make a move IF Gruden were not committed to being here. This also allows Gruden to finish up his MNF obligations for the season.
Don't panic and know that this is still the way it was scripted and is supposed to pan out. Hart has been deliberate in his actions but everything is still on track.
Also, even of you see an announced, "Coach Search" by the university, don't be alarmed. It will be just a formality at that point.

Doc, you have been on this board for a while, and one of the first (that I saw) post the solid information about Gruden, and part of the reason I have believed so strong.

My son told me I was depressed and disalusional about Gruden... but i have held on ... believeing you as well as other sound posters... I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT...

And I choose to believe you are :salute:.. thank you for coming back and re-affirming my confidence

 

[tnktm]

Unless in the last week or two UT has completely changed the counsel they use to draft legal agreements without telling anyone this is just incorrect. We will see I guess. Its this kind of thing being reported that makes me question everything since I am very close with the legal professionals that would draft such an agreement and know there is not any sort of MOU in place.

Why would they draft a secret document for a big time client then come out and call you to tell you about it (for the sake of argument - realize all of this is crazy)?

 

[DocVol]

That would make more sense, but still don't think UT will make an offer that high.

You must be joking.

 

[Vol_Doc]

Gruden will not come here for "$4.5-5m".

That may tell you something. Hope your "sources" are right, but seems really unlikely.

 

[TNVolSoldier]

Unless in the last week or two UT has completely changed the counsel they use to draft legal agreements without telling anyone this is just incorrect. We will see I guess. Its this kind of thing being reported that makes me question everything since I am very close with the legal professionals that would draft such an agreement and know there is not any sort of MOU in place.

Carter is working for the man

j/k

 

[Jake]

When all is said and done IF there is an agreement to be reached with Gruden the base will be no more than 4.5-5m with the rest coming from incentives like bowl games, SECCG, and BCS bowls, etc...

Much more chewable

 

[zidanefan]

I really do...

 

[DocVol]

Doc, you have been on this board for a while, and one of the first (that I saw) post the solid information about Gruden, and part of the reason I have believed so strong.

My son told me I was depressed and disalusional about Gruden... but i have held on ... believeing you as well as other sound posters... I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT...

And I choose to believe you are :salute:.. thank you for coming back and re-affirming my confidence

Np. Waiting is tough but will be worth it.

 

[rkvdg]

Unless in the last week or two UT has completely changed the counsel they use to draft legal agreements without telling anyone this is just incorrect. We will see I guess. Its this kind of thing being reported that makes me question everything since I am very close with the legal professionals that would draft such an agreement and know there is not any sort of MOU in place.

Please quit pissin down my back

 

[rockytop_14]

Can't. Stop. Watching!