Official Jon Gruden Thread VII

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Dooley would not be coaching this weekend if he was terminated. You guys need to relax and let this play out. It's Gruden, but there is no need to rationalize every statement from media and otherwise as being a smokescreen or speculating that Dooley has been fired but is coaching anyway. The MOU is a way to informally agree upon the parameters of the contract. I am not saying whether a MOU has been signed or not, but the terms have been agreed upon, and that has been the cae for a while.

There is a poster here, who is apparently a teacher in the Tennessee public education system, stated that if her boss told her that she would not be retained in the following year, then the search for a replacement and negotiations immediately thereafter are totally legal...along with an MOU.
 
Thanks Doc.

Its my stance that the job must be posted before being filled but I won't argue that too harshly but I will argue that a MOU signed before the job is open is worthless.

Why are we back to this?

10 days, 3 days... there is obviously a way around everything. Kiffin left and Dooley was hired 3 days later. That tosses out the 10 day rule.
 
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Once again...after a couple of years ago.... and I believe the former governor actually did it on his way out...it Does not apply to some positions....and paygrades.

They do still have to interview 3 candidates by law I believe bUT they can seek them out.
 
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I lost an Uncle today to Cancer, he was like a second father to my brother and myself. While I know he is no longer in pain and he is at home now with God. It does not help with the hurting and heartbreak for our family, but we all know he did not pass, he was called "HOME" . During my time alone today or tonight when the wife and kids are asleep I have had this bard to keep me busy, reading, laughing and throwing in a post ever once in a while.

There one more Vol fan in Heaven tonight, I Love You and miss you Uncle RS!!!

I am truly sorry for your loss. My thoughts go out to you.
 
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Sure that's all correct but jobs must be publicly open to protect the state from anyone claiming that jobs were filled improperly. A job must be open in order to be filled and that requires it being public.


Some of you need to learn how state law impacts jobs paid by the state

Thank you to this board for helping me keep my mind off of things......and bear with me but typing this is helping me

I lost an Uncle today to Cancer, he was like a second father to my brother and myself. While I know he is no longer in pain and he is at home now with God. It does not help with the hurting and heartbreak for our family, but we all know he did not pass, he was
called "HOME" . During my time alone today or tonight when the wife and kids are asleep I have had this bard to keep me busy, reading, laughing and throwing in a post ever once in a while.

There one more Vol fan in Heaven tonight, I Love You and miss you Uncle RS!!!

Sorry about your loss. Thoughts and prayers for you and your family.
 
If you can't argue against a MOU that is written before a job is open I hope you are opposing me in court in all cases we take

I am just telling you that a lawyer drafts that crap and each side has lawyers to advise them. It's that simple. An MOU is merely a binding letter of intent. I have said the same thing about ten times. It has been fun but I need some sleep.
 
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Why are we back to this?

10 days, 3 days... there is obviously a way around everything. Kiffin left and Dooley was hired 3 days later. That tosses out the 10 day rule.

There is no doubt there are ways around the time he job is supposed to be open.


That isn't my arguement here. It's only about the MOU for a job that doesn't exist
 
There is a poster here, who is apparently a teacher in the Tennessee public education system, stated that if her boss told her that she would not be retained in the following year, then the search for a replacement and negotiations immediately thereafter are totally legal...along with an MOU.

She probably does not have anything more than a 1-year contract that gets renewed at the end of each year. Not the case with Dooley. He is under contract for multiple years.
 
Thank you to this board for helping me keep my mind off of things......and bear with me but typing this is helping me

I lost an Uncle today to Cancer, he was like a second father to my brother and myself. While I know he is no longer in pain and he is at home now with God. It does not help with the hurting and heartbreak for our family, but we all know he did not pass, he was called "HOME" . During my time alone today or tonight when the wife and kids are asleep I have had this bard to keep me busy, reading, laughing and throwing in a post ever once in a while.

There one more Vol fan in Heaven tonight, I Love You and miss you Uncle RS!!!
You and your family are in my prayers Eric.
 
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I do know that No MOU would have been signed if it were not open and legal in some capacity UT has better lawyers than that. To think otherwise is dim.

In the countersuit, UK sought a judge's order that Gillispie's memorandum of understanding was not a formal contract.[28] On October 13, 2009, UK and Gillispie agreed to settle the dispute.[29] Under the agreement, Gillispie will get $2.98 million while UK will pay over $265,000 in mediation costs
 
Dooley would not be coaching this weekend if he was terminated. You guys need to relax and let this play out. It's Gruden, but there is no need to rationalize every statement from media and otherwise as being a smokescreen or speculating that Dooley has been fired but is coaching anyway. The MOU is a way to informally agree upon the parameters of the contract. I am not saying whether a MOU has been signed or not, but the terms have been agreed upon, and that has been the cae for a while.

True. But an MOU if signed is serious. A guy posted earlier this article reguarding an MOU and Cuonzo coaching under one for a very long time. Cuonzo Martin patient for contract with Tennessee » GoVolsXtra
 
I thought you said you were a student? You said something about being friends with CP or Sentimore once didn't you?

Oh chit. See avi...damn it. Damage has been done and if you're lying for emotional support...you'll qualify for black sheep status eventually.
 
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