Official Jon Gruden Thread VII

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'Boro-vol said:
We're used to it....been this way the entire time. Everybody will come back around. It's cyclical.
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Negagrudes:
"You guys are retards if you think it will be Gruden"
"Sure we may contact Gruden but he would never come here"
"Ok, so we have offered Gruden but he is an NFL guy"
"Ok, he may have said yes but he has taken a lot of people to the altar"
"If he has signed an MOI doesn't really mean anything"
next....
"Ok, so Jon Gruden is on the podium but Billy Donovan took a job and changed his mind"......
 
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crparker21 said:
Just curious, this may have already been brought up. What is the rule on contacting coaches who are under contract in NCAA?
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You can contact another coach while your current is under contract. However, you CANNOT sign the coach to a current deal while the other is still in place. NCAA has a limit on how many coaches can be under contract. Adding one would be a violation. As for talking, you can talk to anyone as long as if they are at an institution you respectfully inform the institution you are talking to their coach.
 
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Weee'rre Baaccckk said:
The penalties/probation is legit:

Vols penalized for Kiffin/Garza incident...
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Just got this release from UT...

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The NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions announced today additional penalties for the University of Tennessee related to a major infractions case involving Willie Mack Garza, an assistant coach on the staff of head coach Lane Kiffin, during the 2009 season.

These penalties include a two-year extension of the probation issued during the 2011 infractions case, a reduction in official visits for the 2012-13 academic year from 51 to 47, a reduction in evaluation days during the spring 2012 evaluation period (already completed), and during unofficial visits during the fall of 2013, no complimentary tickets may be provided to prospective student-athletes for the first two conference games of the season.

The University met with the Committee on Infractions on October 13 for an expedited penalty hearing on an agreed upon summary disposition report submitted in June of 2012. The facts of the case, that Garza funded a prospect's unofficial visit to the University in 2009 and subsequently lied to the Enforcement staff when interviewed as an employee of the University of Southern California, were not in dispute. Resolution between the Committee on Infractions and the University of Tennessee regarding the penalties could not be reached and an expedited penalty hearing was held.

"We will finally close the chapter on the prior actions of members of a previous football coaching staff," said Dave Hart, Vice Chancellor and Director of Athletics. "We have significantly strengthened our culture of compliance at Tennessee and will continue to do so. We disagree with additional penalties for a matter we believed should have been part of the previous case. We will now move forward."

At issue in the penalty hearing was whether the penalty in the 2011 case would have substantially differed had the facts of this case been known at that time, whether the University should be punished for unethical conduct by a former staff member working at another institution and whether the penalties were grounded in precedent and substantially related to the violation committed. The Committee on Infractions made it clear that they are establishing new precedent with this case and others moving forward.

"The University of Tennessee worked in full cooperation with the NCAA throughout this process," said Chancellor Jimmy G. Cheek. "We were disappointed with the initial penalties and appealed on two occasions, in writing and at the hearing in Florida. Although we disagree with the additional penalties, we accept the decision of the Committee. I am proud of the stronger compliance structure we have instituted at the University of Tennessee."

In the facts agreed upon by the University, the NCAA and Garza, during the summer of 2009, Garza reimbursed Will Lyles, an individual associated with prospect Lache Seastrunk, for airfare and hotel expenses associated with an unofficial visit for Seastrunk and his mother to the University. Because Lyles arranged the trip for Seastrunk, the NCAA classified him as a booster of the University.

This visit took place two months prior to the permissible time period for prospects to make expense paid visits to the University. In August 2010, while employed at the University of Southern California, Garza was interviewed by the NCAA Enforcement Staff and failed to disclose information concerning the impermissible visit. In a subsequent interview with the Enforcement Staff conducted in August 2011, Garza denied knowledge of these activities until presented with objective proof of the financial transfer, at which time Garza admitted his role in the matter. Garza was an employee at the University of Tennessee from January 16, 2009, to January 21, 2010.
 
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dbarker said:
Unfortunately, there will always be people who doubt. Someone will believe, but have a small doubt in the back of their minds that only Gruden in an Orange Tie with Hart at the podium can fix.

As far as I am concerned, Im at 99.999% belief. When Boro says something I believe it. That .001 will be resolved when Gruden is at the podium, but I am fully believing Chucky is our new coach. Im ready to go streaking!!!:rock::dance2::loco::peace2::yahoo:
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Agreed..Skepticism is understood b/c of the past coaching searches when we thought we had said coach locked up..But this time is different..Start believing that it's gonna happen..:yes:
 
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WBIR Channel 10
The NCAA gives UT additional probation and penalties for a major infractions case involving former Lane Kiffin assistant coach Willie Mack Garza during the 2009 season. More information to come soon at wbir.com.





not good!!!
 
#10,965
#10,965
I've said it before, and I'll say it again...this thread (and the 6 that preceded it) is as schizophrenic as Charles Manson.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Nothing as long as the university asks permission to talk to said coach.
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Okay so Miami would have to grant permission for UT to speak with Golden. Almost always this is leaked out into the media and why would Miami grant UT permission right now to speak with him? I'm just not buying the Golden stuff, If the season had ended it might make a little more sense.


On a side note Gruden is the only coach I want at this point and will be disappointed with anybody else. But if its Golden then disappointment won't be close to what I am feeling.
 
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smokeyhuntsgators said:
Agreed..Skepticism is understood b/c of the past coaching searches when we thought we had said coach locked up..But this time is different..Start believing that it's gonna happen..:yes:
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Completely agree :) This has ALOT more smoke and mirrors and chatter than the Randy Shannon thing did. GO VOLS!!!:yahoo:
 
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