Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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BristolVol said:
I agree with you, it's just a lot of people are saying he never had any interest.
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A lot are saying he never had interest, but the ones that are saying that's ridiculous seem more adamant about it and I tend to believe them more.

This whole thing wouldn't make any sense to me if he never let anybody know he had some level of interest.

Even if that interest was a lie.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
'Boro has been working today.

I've not been told anything that tells me its completely over. We'll see.
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Thanks for the update 'Boro. Just keep holding out hope. Common sense tells me not to, but I just cant quite pull myself away yet.
 
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Int'lVOLofMystery said:
I haven't seen anything. I'm fairly certain he's like the rest of the OG's and is trying to figure out what happened.
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Maybe tho OGs have been informed to squash it as well. Look at how many people dropped out when some of them gave up. If someone from AD told me that it was still on but I needed to be quite about it or I might ruin it, you wouldn't hear anything out of me at all.
 
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I think the OGs had some good information, but here's what I believed happened.

Something is keeping Gruden from taking the job right now. The best assumption is his commitment to ESPN.

The path Hargis was headed down all but pointed to a confirmed hire. It wasn't supposed to break this soon, and pretty much every "source" that had probably been getting good information got cut off in an attempt to not make this look like a done deal.

As soon as the Hargis article was about to break (and many knew it would - including Tony B's assistant - hence the twitter incident) all of a sudden- the OGs started getting bad news. Did that not scream fishy to anyone else?

Again, this wasn't supposed to break this fast. Hargis was about to knock this thing out of the park with no way to not make it look like a confirmed done deal, the AD finds out, does everything it can to make it look like there was a snag or not going to happen last minute, the diversions and distractions take place, and I highly suspect the OGs sources were somehow involved in this, whether to help slow it down or they, in turn, we're getting told it wasn't happening to make it appear dead/dying as well.

It's a conspiracy theory, I know - but looking at the facts it's the only thing that looks sensible to me right now. Too much contradiction from unnamed sources, too many media leaks trying to point our noses anywhere but Gruden, and the only factual, confirmed leak with a names behind it (Hargis), fits into this narrative I believe to a T.

I may be crazy, but it's been a fun mental exercise putting this together if nothing else.
 
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I'll be the first to admit it doesn't look good....but nothing we heard yesterday makes any sense.

I'm in a wait and see mode. Info has completely dried up this weekend.

Hang in there Grudenites....the longer this goes the better our chances.
 
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MACGRUDER said:
I think the OGs had some good information, but here's what I believed happened.

Something is keeping Gruden from taking the job right now. The best assumption is his commitment to ESPN.

The path Hargis was headed down all but pointed to a confirmed hire. It wasn't supposed to break this soon, and pretty much every "source" that had probably been getting good information got cut off in an attempt to not make this look like a done deal.

As soon as the Hargis article was about to break (and many knew it would - including Tony B's assistant - hence the twitter incident) all of a sudden- the OGs started getting bad news. Did that not scream fishy to anyone else?

Again, this wasn't supposed to break this fast. Hargis was about to knock this thing out of the park with no way to not make it look like a confirmed done deal, the AD finds out, does everything it can to make it look like there was a snag or not going to happen last minute, the diversions and distractions take place, and I highly suspect the OGs sources were somehow involved in this, whether to help slow it down or they, in turn, we're getting told it wasn't happening to make it appear dead/dying as well.

It's a conspiracy theory, I know - but looking at the facts it's the only thing that looks sensible to me right now. Too much contradiction from unnamed sources, too many media leaks trying to point our noses anywhere but Gruden, and the only factual, confirmed leak with a names behind it (Hargis), fits into this narrative I believe to a T.

I may be crazy, but it's been a fun mental exercise putting this together if nothing else.
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Well done sir!
 
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GonzoforCuonzo said:
Sorry, can't see the third one being right. LaMonte claimed Tennessee never talked to him. That is enough for me to doubt anything coming from that guy's mouth.

I hope this whole thing was a play by Gruden to get the money he wanted for his assistants or something. Not likely, but hopes are good for the soul.
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Understand what your saying. I'm not gonna say any of them are true, just putting them out there.

It's up to us to just sit back and relax and enjoy the show. I believe everything will be just fine and everyone will be happy with the decision.

Oh and pay attention to the wording being used in all this. e.g. LaMonte said "UT" never contacted him.
 
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JohnnyBanana said:
A lot are saying he never had interest, but the ones that are saying that's ridiculous seem more adamant about it and I tend to believe them more.

This whole thing wouldn't make any sense to me if he never let anybody know he had some level of interest.

Even if that interest was a lie.
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There was interest......this has been going on since the spring. I'm told Gruden initiated contact.
 
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Here's some hope. Sabin said 2 days before he was hired. "No way I'm interested in AL"
Look Where he's at!!!b/c the boosters. AL's AD had nothing to do with the hire. Boosters over ruled it and got the guy "they wanted".
 
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photovol said:
You may be correct but Vol fans have become so used to losing that they really don't expect to win anymore
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Sad, but true. Hopefully, whoever is hired can start to change those expectations. A sharp recruiting class and some smart x and o play calling can really do wonders next year
 
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'Boro-vol said:
'Boro has been working today.

I've not been told anything that tells me its completely over. We'll see.
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Welcome Boro, hope you haven't taken to much crap from all this. I still think most people believe what you guys brought to this board. Thanks again for the info and who knows, maybe it will still happen.
 
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Int'lVOLofMystery said:
Pointing out the obvious, but I'm very, very jealous of these Alabama running backs. They're ridiculous.

And that A. Cooper is something.
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They got a better 1 comin next year. Derek henry. Broke a 60 year national rushing record for rushing yards career. Hes from Fla goin to bamer:jpshakehead::jpshakehead::jpshakehead::jpshakehead::jpshakehead::jpshakehead::jpshakehead::jpshakehead::jpshakehead:
 
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Orange Blazer said:
There is no secret. He doesn't want to coach in college.
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ok people lets use are friggin brain here. these people who come on here and say its over are crazy! gruden if he is going to coach at the college level, it is going to be tennessee. why would he be interested in any other team?(no connections to anyone else really). second of all last i checked the tennessee job is the hottest on the block. i say media and UT ad had to quash the rumors and hype. if u know anything about legal contracts and binding agreements, u know what im talking about i donat have to explain it. the ad and gruden both need to hold the national media until one or both of two things happen:

-his last pay check is recieved from tampa bay.

-he completes his year at mnf. which is on dec 17.

i think this so called annoucement that people were talking about, its not coming soon. that is the point of squashing the rumors and to hold off media. think about it!!!!
 
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