Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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If Gruden was not at all interested in the HC job he would have made that very clear, very early on. He has way too much respect for UT to hinder our chances of landing a quality coach by playing games. He would have killed that rumour long ago. There is a reason why he has not publicly denied interest in the job. MNF finishes up on the 22nd of this month. I'm not saying he will be our next HC, but I am 100% positive he has been/is negotiating with Hart.
 
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BruinVol said:
That story does fit into Making the OG's story legit. I believe they were told many accurate things and the only thing missing from them being accurate was Grudens willingness to keep his word.
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I can see that... and I may come to believe that... however I choose to wait until a coach is announced before I make a final conclusion....

I don't want to be the fool who makes his mind up completly until he hears the complete story
 
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Sorry for the long post............

This whole time-line thing makes no sense to me. Hart was smugly confident at the press conference. He had just fired his head coach and was joking with the reporters. Then this......

Thursday
- TFP break story about Gruden to Tennessee and UTAD declines to comment

Friday
- Hart and Gilbert spotted at a private jet building - discussion was that they were interviewing Fedora, Strong, or Golden
- Fedora turns down interview and was spotted at the NCHSSA state football championships
- Fisher tells the Jacksonville Times-Union that he has not been contacted by UTAD
-Charlie Strong sidesteps questions about his job status next year
- Evan Woodbery talks with Bob LaMonte who dismisses the story

Saturday
- @Jason_Higdon - tweets repeatedly that Charlie Strong has not interviewed on Friday or Saturday
- TFP posts another article where sources in the UTAD are now saying that Gruden has pulled his name out of the search

Sunday
- Hart to interview Gundy today per Hubbs and Rucker
- OSU AD releases a statement that he has not given permission fo us to talk to Gundy

Monday
- Hart to interview Fisher in NY

Three big things jump out at me.

First, we are either going rogue on this coaching search and bypassing other AD's or we are not interviewing these guys. We can't just ignore protocol.

Second, why send Evan Woodbery, who was hired in August 2012, to interview Bob LaMonte? The biggest story in UT's recent history and you send a kid who looks like he just started shaving.

Third, why the string of un-named sources in the UTAD that are involved in the TFP article but then on Friday Jimmy Stanton declines to comment? Doesn't make sense to me to "No comment" on this s h i t storm.

I'm just confused about all of this. I tried to ignore twitter and stick to newspaper or university sources but I can't wrap my head around this.

Anyone else think they can?
 
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Weee'rre Baaccckk said:
Pretty dumb post, seeing as though you're literally doing the exact same thing to what I posted. Think before you speak and all that

But my obsession isn't with your thoughts and opinions, it's with the University of Tennessee, something that I love enough to realize that when we're being laughed at, is time to man up and show the world who we are : A united fan base hungering for wins that re not attached to the delusion that only one man could make possible. It's disheartening that these people have such a low opinion of UT and its capabilities.

I'm just owing going to stop right there, it became redundant to me to continue this rant, particularly to, such an ill conceived quote.

Carry on
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Why is it embarrassing to want the best coach out there,(Gruden) for the head coach of our University? Why is it embarrassing to want your University to be a major player again in College Football.

In my opinion, its more embarrassing to keep bashing your fellow VOL fans for wanting the best out there.
 
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Am I the only one that sees a resemblance between this MACGRUTER chap and a guy named Volreporter from awhile back? Must be the writing style.
 
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Coastypop said:
My post was not a shot... I actually think there may be some truth in what you believe went down... I have actually been here all along from gruden1 because I am a Gruden fan.... that is who I want if we can get him.

It will not change my life if we do not get him, or if we do. I thank you for your post and it was insightful and very well written as I would not be able to do at all.

I know there are many who come in here to attack the OG's and to belittle the believers as well as any who post here... I am not one of those

But I find it interesting that you value your opinion above that of the OG's by saying to STOP listening to them. As for me they are the ones who have built this thread to what it is... I have followed their logic and their inside information thus far.... As for me "I will dance with the girl what brung me....
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I honestly think you're getting me all wrong. Coasty, I truly enjoy your posts and in no way want to sway your mind, if it's made up. I think you're a wonderful poster, and though this account doesn't reflect it, I've been reading your contributions for awhile

If you read what I wrote initially, I'm basing a LARGE percentage of my (biased) narrative around what they provided, because...no ifs or buts, it was way more factual than anything else that has come out.

Since then, I'm trying my best to be respectful towards them, while disagreeing with their current stance. It's a conundrum on my part. How do you stop believing the source that's provided the framework for your story up until now?

It's hard to justify, let alone prove, and in no way do I have any sort of credibility to outright try and pull people away from them. Like I said from the getgo, I have no inside information. My opinion is mostly forged from what happens after the fact. If someone wants a guy to predict the future, I AM NOT THAT GUY.

I just think, honestly, that this story is bigger than even the most hardcore Gruden fans want to admit. This is a story that will change the mold of college football for years, will make headlines for weeks, and even had a 23 year vetted professional journalist double-fact-checking longtime friend sources just to get immediately smear-campaigned the next day.

For those reasons, I'm choosing not to believe what the OG's are hearing anymore. Several of them were wavering daily anyway, and that's not me calling them liars, but I strongly believe that a strong foundation of their information outlet HAS to be tied to the same information outlet that is feeding the AD vague press releases and the non-committal ESPN shoot-downs. Something has to give. Either we have one of the most loose-lipped inner circles in one of the biggest deals in NCAA history, or....more likely, those with some legit connections are being manipulated just like the rest of us by the really, really high-higher-ups, because they know the danger of this story breaking too fast.

Again, you don't have to agree with me or my crazy theory. It's something I've come up with in the last two days, admittedly, but please don't paint me as a guy doing it for attention or try to discredit the folks that have kept me glued to these forums for over 3 weeks now. There's just a lot of craziness and trolling going on right now, and I initially wanted to post my thread for an alternative for folks who still had faith, but weren't quite sure to make of anything. I stand behind my reasoning, but that doesn't mean I expect anyone else to.
 
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Coastypop said:
I can see that... and I may come to believe that... however I choose to wait until a coach is announced before I make a final conclusion....

I don't want to be the fool who makes his mind up completly until he hears the complete story
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I can respect that opinion but you stated nothing added up. It does add up and you are admitting that is what you will believe happened if gruden isn't hired. I understand holding out some hope but claiming there isn't an explaination for what's happened isn't reality
 
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Smokey, I'm gonna move up to 10%. After me going over everything last night and this morning. Something smells bad in ktown and I don't like it.
 
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BruinVol said:
I can respect that opinion but you stated nothing added up. It does add up and you are admitting that is what you will believe happened if gruden isn't hired. I understand holding out some hope but claiming there isn't an explaination for what's happened isn't reality
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Bruin what's your opinion on how this has gone down? Do you feel the deal is completely dead? I have enjoyed reading your post the last few weeks. I thought while you were skeptical, you were respectful and offered much needed skepticism.
 
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Oldvol75 said:
Why is it embarrassing to want the best coach out there,(Gruden) for the head coach of our University? Why is it embarrassing to want your University to be a major player again in College Football.

In my opinion, its more embarrassing to keep bashing your fellow VOL fans for wanting the best out there.
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Agree^

Morning Oldvol
 
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BruinVol said:
I can respect that opinion but you stated nothing added up. It does add up and you are admitting that is what you will believe happened if gruden isn't hired. I understand holding out some hope but claiming there isn't an explaination for what's happened isn't reality
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I only meant to say I could see that if Gruden was not hired... do not want to confirm or deny that will be my final decision... I do not type like I think...LOL

I am willing, once this is over to consider all senerios of the case, but believe as or now....Nothing that I KNOW or Believe I know adds up.

Hopefully it will end soon and we will all find out (maybe)
 
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Volgrad98 said:
Good morning Vol fans. I hate Bama.
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I understand the old school hatred for Bama.

However, my worst run-ins with opposing fans were from Notre Dame hands down. I can usually relate to opposing fans, shake hands, share a beer, etc... but I will forever hate those pompous dou&hbags up North.

And I'm part Irish and a catholic.
 
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