Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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I'm not convinced Gruden is coming, but I'm also not convinced he's not. I will believe he is not coming when the new HC is announced and his name isn't Gruden. Coaches, agents, and administrators use the media in all kinds of ways and often times outright lie (see Nick Saban). It seems like UT and LaMonte are playing games with each other through the media...one side says the other wants too much whatever, the other side says UT didn't make an effort. Seems like a game.
 
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At the time Muschamp was more sought after. I think I know the real reason why you guys don't want Strong.

That's BS! I don't care what color a person's skin is, who they are married to or what their affiliation is. And, I spent over 20 years defending the people of this country's right to choose for themselves.

I would be running up and down the streets shouting for joy if Shaw was hired. I believe that he is a super star just beginning his ascent and would love for him to be at TN.

I don't have the faith that Strong can get it done at UT...period. Nothing about how he talks, walks, looks. Just his coaching and his history to base it off of.

Before you start calling people out, I suggest you find out their background and maybe try to hold a discussion without resorting to the basest of tactics to try to discredit them.

JMO
 
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I've read every post of every single Jon Gruden thread. I can come to the conclusion that not a single person on here knows what they're talking about. My sources aren't legit, the people on this site who are usually legit are wrong and prominent football players are even outsiders. Dave Hart needs to take a government job.

HAHA!...but it has been entertaining...granted it is losing some of that appeal

"Hart. David Hart. Double Naught Spy."
 
I definitely think the thread will blow up with negagrudes if/when a hire who is not Gruden is announced.

They will want to feel all big and self important...
 
I can't wait to come in here and tell everyone that doubted I told you. It will be awesome.

But if a total disaster happens I will come in here and eat crow. But that's not happening.

Everybody here wants Gruden.

What everybody has a problem with is that you add nothing of substance and then you get combative.

You just say things like "trust me", or "I know".

That sort of thing doesn't endear people to you. Don't take it personally though.
 
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There is just absolutely NO WAY that the majority of all media involved in covering this coaching search is going to participate in some kind of a smokescreen campaign so Gruden can be hired.

Let's be real... :no:

I agree that it would just be too hard to have all the media knowingly participate as being a smokescreen and no one leak any info. But I do find some believability in that the media is being fed false info and the AD and Boosters are using them as a smokescreen (without the media knowing it). JMO
 
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TB just said Hart had the backing of the "biggest of the big" in reference to Gruden deal/non deal. And big money had enough.
 
And? I see nothing that shows me he can do it in the SEC. He's a decent recruiter and a good coach, yet not great in my opinion. Unfortunately we need great this time.

What showed people les could do it in the SEC?
 
I would be running up and down the streets shouting for joy if Shaw was hired. I believe that he is a super star just beginning his ascent and would love for him to be at TN.

Exactly. I could get excited about Shaw. I really love the way his team plays. I have said before, they remind me of UT circa 1990s. Smash you in the face football.
 
Malzahn had 17th ranked offense in his first year at Arky St. I'm pretty sure he only had 10 returning starters. His offenses were impressive at Auburn. He had the #1 offense at Tulsa. Aside from one rough year, he has been pretty solid.

In my mind he could be the next big offensive mind in the SEC (if Sumlin hasn't already claimed that title). When he was at Tulsa, I shot him an email asking a question about one of his offensive schemes, he actually sent me a nice response within a couple of days. I hope he at least gets an interview. My much more exciting than Strong in my opinion.

2006 Arkansas 33rd
2007 Tulsa 1st
2008 Tulsa 2nd
2009 Auburn 21st
2010 Auburn 7th
2011 Auburn 101st
2012 Arky State 17th
 
I agree with that too... what is being reported in the media can't be true because there are so many conflicting reports all around.

One thing is for sure... no one really knows 100% what is going to happen... and as far as Gruden is concerned, other than his agent which might have just said what he did to throw everyone off and quiet everyone down for awhile, he hasn't said anything specifically about turning something down nor has UT said anything about Gruden not being a target so I still there is a possibility here.... how good of one remains to be seen.
 
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TB just said Hart had the backing of the "biggest of the big" in reference to Gruden deal/non deal. And big money had enough.

Then it makes no sense why this didn't happen. Unless there was some last-minute snag with ESPN contract. Notice that when asked on Mike and Mike and the agent comments, both mentioned ESPN and being committed.
 
I've been reading these boards a long time, but have only recently starting posting a little. I don't know anyone on here, at least I don't think. From someone that knows the innerworkings of Knoxville politics and money to a decent extent, I think Carter sounds as legitimate as anyone on this board and is as plugged in as anyone.

Through marriage, I've had some run ins with some big money folks. I also work in government here. The only thing I will say about this is that the traits these people value the most is loyalty and secrecy. They despise gossip. They don't talk except to the folks in their inner circles. With that being said, it is almost guaranteed that anyone posting this info as an insider on this board coming from boosters is getting it from at least 2nd and probably 3rd hand sources. The folks that would really be working this deal would never post here and wouldn't give their info to anyone that would - I am nearly 100% certain in this.


And if those people with sources wanted to throw a bone to keep spirits up. They would only try to "keep the faith" and hint for brighter days, rather than drop a boom that could spoil a deal or up the ante on the negotiation.
 
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