Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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bcartervol98 said:
I will say this, this thread has been the most entertaining online experience in a long long time for me that didnt involve shipping a poker tournament lol.
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No doubt about that. Has been a wild ride and the sad thing is it is still going. Slowed down a little yes but still rollin!
 
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per Oklahoma St mods on Rivals...

Here is the best info I've been able to rundown this morning. I'll try to highlight areas where I'm pretty certain of solid information and where it's more rumor/innuendo (as there is a lot of that to be had at the moment).

It is looking apparent that a Tennessee contingent flew to Stillwater yesterday to meet with Gundy. They arrived around 10 AM and stayed for several hours. Whether it was a formal interview or an informal "get to know you" type of talk, I don't know. It was at his house.

I have heard - from a guy with connections, but it's still a couple of steps away from being a direct source - that Gundy is Tennessee's top target and the dollar figure would be in the 4-5 million/year range.

The word is that Arkansas is interviewing him today. That's rumor at this point, but I would say it will likely turn out to be correct. He's also supposedly their top target.

What does all of this mean? That's the $64 million dollar question. And I think if someone is telling you they know Gundy's motives for talking to other schools, or that he definitely will or will not leave, they're outright guessing. At this time I would speculate that only Mike, his wife, his agent and probably his dad really know what his thought process is.

Based on a personal conversation awhile back, I would be very surprised if Gundy were to take a job at an SEC school. I've been surprised in coaching carousel stuff plenty of times before, so I certainly won't say "never." Still, it would be a shocking surprise.

Who are some potential candidates if Gundy does leave his "New York Yankees job?" I think it is still too early for that. That said, some former and current coaches could be on the list if it comes to that. Larry Fedora would get a call gauging interest for sure. I think Todd Monken would get a look. Joe Wickline is another possible candidate on the current staff, but I still don't believe Joe has any desire to be a head coach. If he does, he'd get a look.

At this point I don't think there is much solid information available at this time, other than that UT met with Gundy yesterday. I do expect that more solid information is about to start flowing. Both UT and Arkansas are motivated to get a coach in place. Whatever the outcome, I don't expect this madness will last very long on the OSU side (unless of course he leaves, then OSU becomes the major player).
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bcartervol98 said:
I will say this, this thread has been the most entertaining online experience in a long long time for me that didnt involve shipping a poker tournament lol.
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bcarter, I just want to thank you for sharing info with us and please post often even if it's not about Gruden..You have been nothing but respectful and have always been nice to me..Glad you're on my friend's list.:salute:
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I posted this in one of the Strong threads - seems appropriate to this question.

I looked at Louisville's recruiting classes on Rivals from 2002 to the present which is all they show and divided it up into the various coaching tenures to see how they compared. Overall, Strong has been the highest performing recuriter there. John L Smith was there in 2002 followed by Petrino then Kragthorpe until Strong got there in 2010. His 2011 class was the highest ranked class for the entire period back to 2002. Generally Louisville's classes have aveaged ranking in the 40's but Strong has a slightly higher star average than any of the other coaches. He also appears to have less turnover if you want to make that assumption based on class sizes. The current class isn't even half full so the current ranking is dramatically misleading but the average star rating is still pretty high for Louisville.

I think you can conclude that he has recruited slightly better overall at Louisville than Petrino or anyone else who preceded him back to 2002 however Petrino's team had a better performance record including the last two years of Petrino's term with them moving to the Big East.

I think it's probably a given that Strong would likely fare better than Dooley did at UT. I don't think there's evidence to suggest it's a given that he can consistently compete with SEC big time boys but I don't think there enough evidence to state that he can't either. It's something we'd just have to find out.
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Solid post.......... I don't want to find out, Only when we have gone through three more losing records .. I want a KNOWN Winner...
 
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DynaVol said:
Somebody please explain to me how the AD is going to pay buyouts and pay a new coaching staff on 6 million per year?
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To be fair, that is 6 million on top of the current budget.

Fulmer's buyout will be ending soon also.

Buyouts are almost always paid in installments.
 
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Apparently, there is a team meeting at Oklahoma State today around 2:45pm or so. It's going to get talked about on Twitter and everywhere else.

It's a meeting that has been planned so I wouldn't read anything into the fact that they are meeting because I'm told it has been on the docket for a while.

We are going to keep on keep digging along.
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-Hubbs
 
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105437 said:
There is just absolutely NO WAY that the majority of all media involved in covering this coaching search is going to participate in some kind of a smokescreen campaign so Gruden can be hired.

Let's be real... :no:
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They don't necessarily have to be willing participants. They just have to use the same source. For instance, when Hyams reported last week that Gruden wasn't coming, most of the follow on articles quoted him as the source.

Not saying that this is happening, but the reporting for this search has been based on rumor and innuendo throughout and most "reporters" are basing their take off of "unnamed source."
 
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Stevorino said:
Yes.... except I don't think he's 'in on it'.
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Definitely not on any misdirection lol. Plenty of that here without me. At least Yay4Bray is finally getting sniffed out as a troll. The only thing he has done is spout off in true hit and run style seemingly factual statements without backing any of them up.

Not trying to be an ass, I was ALL IN like the rest of people here were. I just think the "Gruden Thread' would be the place to discuss all things Gruden, even the fact that him coming here was little more than talk amongst boosters, their friends, and on a couple occasions Gruden himself.

But then again the remaining believers will applaud any source that says it is still possible and condemn any source that says otherwise.
 
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Hey, hey!!! Lets keep it real in here guys there is no "strong" hire the on strong hire is gruden and he is a homerun hire. Just like macgruden's post he is coming buckle up its gonna be:


SOON AND


SOON


SOON.


SOON
 
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