Official Jon Gruden Thread XLIII

[knucklehead_vol]

Any info on where Currie was yesterday and last night?

Nice

 

[LakeMaryFLVol]

coastal22 on VQ

"There is no Mullen. No Schiano. No interviews today/tomorrow. Not sure where Brent is getting that info, but the Grudenaline is about to start flowing"

Everyone calm down

How well known is Coastal?

 

[luthervol]

If it falls that far, and it won't...I'm done. I won't support another mid major hire.

I'm not going to give my tacit approval for the status quo.

Wife and I have been discussing purchasing GA Tech season tickets for next year. I told her I'd know the minute TN introduces their new coach. Also, waiting to make plans (or not) for the game in Charlotte against WV. I'm sure there are thousands of fans out there with similar feelings. It's not that I will not still be a UT fan; I'll just be a fan from a distance and far less passionate.

 

[kyvolsfan]

Assuming Malzahn stays put, Arky will come after Norvell hard with a real offer that gives him guaranteed time to rebuild and they can pay $4 million or more. Basically, I don't think Norvell is going to have to accept some sort of heavily-stringed deal just to get an SEC gig at a school where he can win. Too me, that puts him in the same camp as Campell. Plus, I don't think anything good has come out of Memphis since Elvis but I admit that is just personal bias.

I'm surprised Strong's name hasn't at least been mentioned for the Arkansas job, with him being from there.

 

[TrapVol]

-247

“ohio state defensive coordinator greg schiano has been a popular name over the last handful of days, but the former rutgers and tampa bay buccaneers head coach doesn’t seem to be a serious candidate for the opening at tennessee.

Feedback from athletic-department personnel has been that schiano would not be a good fit as tennessee’s next head coach.”

Shocker. Currie would have to be a complete idiot.

 

[knucklehead_vol]

Gruden has been in East TN since Thanksgiving.

.

 

[volgr]

If we don’t hear anything from anyone today, prepare the gates. Bar the doors and latch the windows. The trolls will begin to invade again, and to be honest, I’m over the whole smoke and mirrors, soon, be patient crap. It’s time for Currie to make his announcement.

I agree, after today Currie and Gruden are trolling and torturing the fan base. Ship or get off the pot. Enough.

 

[coffeevol]

Wrong quote

 

[SWFLvol33]

What is beaver saying???

Lol

 

[TruVolGritt]

Actually, Boro dropped a better hint/bread crumb this morning. A bunch of 18-22 year olds can get on a hype train by following the lead of a select few. Not much off a nugget there, but possibly a minor blip on the radar.

However, getting called into your job on a Sunday after a game day when most are in "recovery" mode? Way bigger deal. I can speak from experience and first hand knowledge that university departments put in serious hours on game days. Like 12 hours or more depending on kickoff time. And that includes departments not normally considered "game day ops." They can and will not get called in on Sundays unless another big event is going on or they are under a time crunch.

Trust me on this. Boro has one of the best tidbits for today if it pans out.

Grude morning...If today the day we long awaited...tidbits, keep em coming got my coffee and ready for shots...:good!:

 

[BIGORANGEFISH]

OK people I am all GRUDEN but where are the insiders now and if I missed it what are they saying. The people we have been listening to the most and got us ALL fired up have not been anywhere around so what gives.

You don't need anything else. Just believe. VERY SOON!

 

[PhiladelphiaVOL]

Didn't someone post a couple of weeks ago that Currie walked in a skybox of booster and said "I hear some of you have an idea of who should be hired?"...It was said, he immediately smiled and was in good spirits.......

Yeah that was me. This definitely happened. They told him glad you are back. He said hopefully you feel that way in a few days. That was at lsu game

 

[TrapVol]

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Your silence speaks volumes.

 

[etcolton]

TIFWIW but my buddy is neighbors with bill whitesell. He got us sideline passes at yesterday’s game. Told my friend the announcement would happen today.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

This one in particular. Because I checked into it. Because...Gruden.

That’s what the lawyer I checked with told me after his read of NCAA refs.

We all know lawyers lie tho.

Soon?

I think you're wrong, man. At the very least, I think you're making an Uneducated Guess. Heh.

The NCAA Bylaws are the "rules" we're talking about, particularly Article 11, "Conduct and Employment of Athletics Personnel."

I just read it through in its entirety. There seems to be no prohibition to Gruden's ESPN employment and his UT employment overlapping, as long as it is properly reported and documented.

Here's one applicable section of Article 11:

11.2.2 Athletically Related Income. Contractual agreements...between [an] athletics department staff member [including coaches]...and an institution [this is shorthand for NCAA member instution...so the University of Tennessee] shall include the stipulation that the staff member is required to provide a written detailed account annually to the president or chancellor for all athletically related income and benefits from sources outside the institution. In addition, the approval of all athletically related income and benefits shall be consistent with the institution’s policy related to outside income and benefits applicable to all full-time or part-time employees. Sources of such income shall include, but are not limited to, the following:
...
(b) Sports camps;
...
(f) Television and radio programs; and
(g) Endorsement or consultation contracts with athletics shoe, apparel or equipment manufacturers.

So not only can Jon Gruden be employed by ESPN (TV or radio program), he can also continue to endorse Hooters, Corona, and other business enterprises, as long as he notifies the University of those obligations and they are consistent with UT's policies concerning outside employment. Note that the University reportedly does not approve of the Hooters or Corona links, because they don't want scantily clad (orange and white clad, no less) women and alcohol to be directly connected to UT's image. But that's between UT and Gruden; the NCAA by-law does not prohibit it.

This element of Article 11 specifically allows Gruden to be paid for work outside of UT:

11.3.2.1 Bona Fide Outside Employment. A staff member may earn income in addition to the institutional
salary by performing services for outside groups.

Here's the one element of the By-Laws that may require coordination between UT and the NCAA. It does not explicitly address TV reporting, is geared toward print media, but the spirit of the rule may require coordination:

11.3.2.4 Noninstitutional Publications That Report on Athletics Program. Athletics department staff
members shall not endorse (either orally or in writing) any noninstitutional publication dedicated primarily to
reporting on an institution’s athletics activities, except as provided in this section, and shall not write for such
publications.

Other than that, I see nothing that would in any way apply to Gruden working for ESPN for a few more weeks.

So, UneducatedGuess, what rule book were you talking about?


p.s. Good morning, everyone. Great day for Vols fans to look forward, rather than back.

 

[SWFLvol33]

TIFWIW but my buddy is neighbors with bill whitesell. He got us sideline passes at yesterday’s game. Told my friend the announcement would happen today.

Time will tell

 

[Fullfillmer]

Actually, Boro dropped a better hint/bread crumb this morning. A bunch of 18-22 year olds can get on a hype train by following the lead of a select few. Not much off a nugget there, but possibly a minor blip on the radar.

However, getting called into your job on a Sunday after a game day when most are in "recovery" mode? Way bigger deal. I can speak from experience and first hand knowledge that university departments put in serious hours on game days. Like 12 hours or more depending on kickoff time. And that includes departments not normally considered "game day ops." They can and will not get called in on Sundays unless another big event is going on or they are under a time crunch.



Trust me on this. Boro has one of the best tidbits for today if it pans out.

This was one of the two items that I passed on last night - someone at UT in charge of maintenance and equipment - had indicated that they were getting the field ready for an announcement.

Don't be surprised if that getting ready doesn't include some sort of set that looks like a tv set FNM ( bw ) Just saying.

 

[BubbaWms]

Gruden to the Hill

you practiced your speech...."Ladies and Gentleman, GRUDEN ON THE HILL" !

 

[Grand Vol]

If it falls that far, and it won't...I'm done. I won't support another mid major hire.

I'm not going to give my tacit approval for the status quo.

A safe hire is gonna bring the mob out

Calm down, guys, I'm not wavering or one of those mouthbreathers from the Mullen or Sciano threads coming in here stirring up trouble. I just tend to overthink things from time to time and have Plan C and D and WTF else can happen. Offering my personal opinions, nothing else.

 

[BP4Prez]

Big. Expensive. Explosive.

You realize this quote came from Tony Basilio’s show, right? I like and listen to Tony, but this did not come from Currie. A guy that heard from a “booster”.

 

[thistime]

I just hope this does not turn out to be another typical UT hire. We have a track record of going on the cheap and trying to find that young guy that MIGHT make it and we had good sucess at that a time or two but we have been pretty weak in the recent past.

Now days if your going to win big you need to go big and I just am not sure UT is willing to do that. We will see, hopefully before 12/20 but nothing shows me that they have a clue yet.

 

[RikidyBones]

I think you're wrong, man. At the very least, I think you're making an Uneducated Guess. Heh.

The NCAA Bylaws are the "rules" we're talking about, particularly Article 11, "Conduct and Employment of Athletics Personnel."

I just read it through in its entirety. There seems to be no prohibition to Gruden's ESPN employment and his UT employment overlapping, as long as it is properly reported and documented.

Here's one applicable section of Article 11:

So not only can Jon Gruden be employed by ESPN (TV or radio program), he can also continue to endorse Hooters, Corona, and other business enterprises, as long as he notifies the University of those obligations and they are consistent with UT's policies concerning outside employment. Note that the University reportedly does not approve of the Hooters or Corona links, because they don't want scantily clad (orange and white clad, no less) women and alcohol to be directly connected to UT's image. But that's between UT and Gruden; the NCAA by-law does not prohibit it.

This element of Article 11 specifically allows Gruden to be paid for work outside of UT:

Here's the one element of the By-Laws that may require coordination between UT and the NCAA. It does not explicitly address TV reporting, is geared toward print media, but the spirit of the rule may require coordination:

Other than that, I see nothing that would in any way apply to Gruden working for ESPN for a few more weeks.

So, UneducatedGuess, what rule book were you talking about?

boom. roasted.

 

[knucklehead_vol]

TIFWIW but my buddy is neighbors with bill whitesell. He got us sideline passes at yesterday’s game. Told my friend the announcement would happen today.

If it does not at the proposed time imo.

 

[Silky_Johnson]

We all should have chipped in months ago for Joey Greco to tail Gruden. We’d all be better off.

 

[BIGORANGEFISH]

Big. Expensive. Explosive.

Dinner at El Chico's