Official Jon Gruden Thread XV

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Guess your friend in Bama who called Gruden to UT was trolling too, huh? Stop, dude. Thought you were better than this gloating bs. Weak as hell.

No he isnt better, he trolls every thread to tell people they are wrong. I hope the next coach wins, i just dont think strong should be the next coach.
 
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You think Bielema was a great hire? haha, that guy won in a weak division for years, cushioned by his environment away from the SEC. Now, he faces Alabama, LSU, A&M, Auburn, and Miss. State. What a terrible decision for him.Why make your life harder for 2 million dollars more a year?

Can say the exact same about strong,but his conference was even weaker.
 
Amen Gman.

They brought Hart in to be the proverbial "hatchet" man. Anyone in corp america knows that these type hires (Hart) are brought in to do a single job which is to trim the fat and cull the herd. He will not be here long and UT will be stuck with another dud as a football coach!!!

Mark my words Hart will return to Bama within 30 months!!!

He came really close with Gruden. It's just the reds like yourself who think it's a Bammer conspiracy. Please, get off drugs.
 
If Arky can get Bielema, we should be able to do better than Strong.

Seriously... he's a Wisconsin alum and took them to 3 straight Rose Bowls... that's a home run hire. Strong? Eh, lost to Kentucky the same number of times as Dooley, out recruited by other schools in the Big East... was passed over by other schools for HC jobs, including Florida, who hired a, wait for it, Defensive Coordinator for HC. Florida knew him best and we should take their advice, of course to him it was "racist". Just bring Phil back, if this is the choice we have, let's just go back with Phil.
 
You make a valid point. I should have not said that in regards to switching allegiences. They don't care about me that's true, and since they ate 1000 miles away, there is little chance of me supporting them either. They beat Bama this year, which is is something I don't see us doing anytime soon without a BIG hire.....and I don't just mean Gruden.

Strong is small time thinking, which seems to be the mold we are stuck in, and I'm tired of it. I still don't believe it, but if OT happens to come to fruition I believe it signals a continuation of mediocrity. Nobody here can seriously say Charlie Strong is the type of coach to go head to head with Nick Saban and have us on equal footing with Bama.

I unreservedly apologize for what I said, it was bush league. I love the Vols, but despise our leadership right now from top to bottom. I'm not alone in this.....many active letterman of various sports agree. It's a mess.

I've backtracked and apologized now, so all of you gloating trolls feel free to flame away. I'm mispoke, and am broad enough between the shoulders to take my lumps.

When this thing breaks the other way on you, be man enough to take what gets dishes back out.

This isn't over yet.

Class!
 
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You think Bielema was a great hire? haha, that guy won in a weak division for years, cushioned by his environment away from the SEC. Now, he faces Alabama, LSU, A&M, Auburn, and Miss. State. What a terrible decision for him.Why make your life harder for 2 million dollars more a year?

Versus losing in the laughable Big East to teams like UConn?
 
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You said he only had 10 commits because he's leaving the program. My point is maybe he only has a handful of spots to fill in the first place and is almost full.

Ah, in which case, that's a fair point. That makes sense and I'm sorry for any perceived flame.:hi:
 
C'mon, don't call me 'bro'. I don't know you, and really don't mind that as I'm sure I wouldn't like you. I have a problem getting along with inferior/submissive people. Just been that way since birth.

If Strong were to be named Head Coach, I would quit supporting the Vols as well. That doesn't mean I wouldn't love the Tennessee Volunteers; it just means that I would be indifferent to the failures that would befall them while this group of Neanderthals were spearheading their journey towards irrelevancy.

Don't ever get lost in the hood.
 
You make a valid point. I should have not said that in regards to switching allegiences. They don't care about me that's true, and since they are 1000 miles away, there is little chance of me supporting them either. They beat Bama this year, which is is something I don't see us doing anytime soon without a BIG hire.....and I don't just mean Gruden.

Strong is small time thinking, which seems to be the mold we are stuck in, and I'm tired of it. I still don't believe it, but if it happens to come to fruition I believe it signals a continuation of mediocrity. Nobody here can seriously say Charlie Strong is the type of coach to go head to head with Nick Saban and have us on equal footing with Bama.

I unreservedly apologize for what I said, it was bush league. I love the Vols, but despise our leadership right now from top to bottom. I'm not alone in this.....many active letterman of various sports agree. It's a mess.

I've backtracked and apologized now, so all of you gloating trolls feel free to flame away. I'm mispoke, and am broad enough between the shoulders to take my lumps.

When this thing breaks the other way on you, be man enough to take what gets dished back out.

This isn't over yet.

You need medication.
 
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Direct Quote from Lowe article on ESPN:

"Nothing has been finalized, and Louisville is expected to do what it can to keep Strong, who guided the Cardinals to a Big East Conference championship and an Allstate Sugar Bowl berth this season."

You trolls are right, its a done deal! :no::huh:

:)
 
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I want to stress my respectful intent at the outset of this post, this is NOT a flame, but I would like to add two salient details:
1) Charlie said that he thought he was being passed over by Auburn in no small part due to race. They hired Gene Chizik (whose résumé was far from sterling, and who clearly turned out to be the wrong hire) above both he and Turner Gill, who at the time was a hot commodity. Note how he hasn't mentioned it since.
He was probably right, and I think it showed a lot of guts for him to say so publicly.
2) It is somewhat ironic that you mention Tony Dungy.
He is on record as having agreed with what Strong said. He said that he too believed Strong was passed over for jobs he would have done very well at (in the SEC) not just because he was black, but because his wife was white.

Regardless of how sensitive people can be about the "race card," it really isn't a stretch for me to believe that race had something to do with the Chizik hire in Auburn, Alabama. Not exactly known as a bastion of tolerance.

I have no issue with strong's race.

I have 2 thoughts on it though:

1). It has to have a hell of an advantage in recruiting. An advantage id welcome.

2) i really will get sick of race being claimed as an issue everytime i criticize his coaching.
 
Can't get anything past you, huh?

And why was it wrong for Boro to say that? I still agree with him. Would you pay to go see a movie in theaters, pay for over-priced concessions (popcorn, drinks, candy), and put up with listening to the movie next door blaring through the walls when you could have just stayed home where there is an almost limitless amount of 'concessions', and watched another movie that's just as good and maybe even more entertaining?

Eloquently said!
 
Occam's Razor, my friend.

The UT job was in play until the Raiders called. That screwed it up. We came really close and almost got it done.

No shame in that. UT stepped up, we just weren't Gruden's preference.

There's no way Gruden coaches the Raider next year, regardless of whether he signs with us or not, at least as a result of anything that has gone on as of right now. That would violate so many NFL rules he'd find himself in Sean Payton's situation if he were even thought to be having legitimate talks with NFL brass while the season is still going and staffs are still employed.
 
All you guys who have been complaining about how the media are being fed false information have now started to believe them all of a sudden? Sorry, I am not buying it until someone shows up at the podium.

FYI -I have known Jim Haslam since 1980. He always get what he wants. I am still on the Gruden train because of that.
 
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