Official Jon Gruden Thread XVI

[MAJOR_ORANGE]

To the OG's, like you I am truly sorry it ended this way. I know that many, many people in positions to know thought it was done with JG, or very close to being done. But apparently it was not to be. And props to Boro, OV and however many of the rest of you showed up this morning too. Those of you taking shots at them are welcome to do so, but the truth is you don't have any idea what you're talking about if you think this was all some internet scam job or something.

I am stunned. Not that Gruden isn't coming, because while I knew that was in play, knowing his history and all I wasn't going to believe it was truly done until he appeared at a presser. I am stunned for other reasons. I am stunned because Dave Hart and his colleagues talked a good game about realizing how important the FB program is to the school as a whole, but apparently still couldn't figure out that this hire, after all the fan base has been through the last 5 years, more than any previous hire in UT history needed to unite and re-energize a demoralized fan base, not just produce a capable coach. Jones could be the next Saban and they still failed miserably on that point, and Jones will step into a chaotic situation without broad fan support and with immense pressure. That is not a recipe for success. Attendance next year will be no better than the last half of this year, and if he doesn't win from day one, his tenure will be short, and we'll be paying another big buyout no doubt (I'm assuming Hart followed the Hamilton method of giving an up and coming coach a buyout more suited for a big name).

I am also stunned because I now believe that Hart was telling the truth when he said after Dooley was fired that he hadn't done anything toward finding a successor, and that is completely insane given how the season played out. Hart should be fired for that reason alone.

And finally, I am stunned because we now know that all the talk about him conducting things close to the vest and no one knowing what he was doing was also false. In fact, his department leaked like a sieve, either because he authorized it or he couldn't control the flow of information. Because the leaks the last couple of days about Jones were true, it's fair to assume the leaks about Strong and Gundy etc. were also true. So he let info stream out about who we were after and how they turned us down and assisted the media in dragging UT through the mud (again) for everyone to see while we begged and pleaded for someone to take the job.

So to Dave Hart, you should be fired, today, and it has nothing to do with whether Butch Jones is a good football coach.

To Jon Gruden, F you. Not because you didn't come here to coach, but because you allowed your agent to act like only a fool would think you would even deign to think about it, when you know that isn't true. How hard would it have been to put together a couple of paragraphs expressing your purported love for Tennessee but respectfully declining to be considered?

I will always love UT, but our flagship University needs a total housecleaning until those running the show demonstrate that they actually believe the words in their own press releases.

I wholeheartedly agree with the last paragraph. :good!:

 

[Unknown Muppet]

Wow is all I can say!Can't believe these clowns hired this fool!Hart better start looking for another job and I mean Today!I'm done with UT until they get rid of Cheek and Hart!Flame on if you want,really don't give a s***!I cannot and will not support substandard and mediocritity!Enjoy the empty seats Hart!

Mal Moore is retiring soon. I wonder if that may have played into the way this was handled.

 

[volatil]

Uhm....sorry, I do not support this coach. The team, and University yes....but not this coach.

I'm voting for change with my feet and my $$'s. I hope they listen.

C'mon Boro, that's not fair to Jones.

He only did what 3-4 other coaches would not do and that's agree to lead our team.

He deserves support right now. I will be there.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

So, after sixteen threads, the only thing positive to come out of this sh*tstorm was The Night Shift.

 

[SmokeyLives]

I can actually get behind this.

agree

 

[BigVol90]

What's it gonna take to get Hart and his bama ass fired?!?!

 

[Spartacavolus]

IF this is true Hart wont be here long.

That bs is coming from a group of clowns that were booted off this site and are on another. If you gather the most full of **** posters, that's where they are and none know squat.

 

[CleVOLander]

I'm curious as to the effect this will have on our recruiting class as well as our juniors.

 

[Obsessed]

So, after sixteen threads, the only thing positive to come out of this sh*tstorm was The Night Shift.

Yes and a few friendships were forged.

 

['Boro-vol]

We doubt you have the contacts too amigo. Your pretentious attitude now is downright laughable.

That's ok. I never sought anyone's approval, or attempted to convince.

I've apologized, and shown up to take my lumps. I'm not certain What else I can do.

You're entitled to whatever opinion you hold.of me.

 

[Burnt Orange]

Damn i woke up and the nightmare won't end.

 

[Elvis68Vol]

I hope Butch hires Sonny Dykes as OC.

 

[Vol-in-Bham]

I wanted Gruden too, but can we stop making idiotic statements like "I'm quitting on the Vols" or "Jones is worse than Dooley" for crying out loud.

Butch Jones has been a head coach for 6 seasons. He has won his conference in 4 of those 6 seasons. He is a much better coach than Derek Dooley.

Again, I wanted Gruden too, but I will support Butch Jones. And I am not ashamed to say it.

Oh come on... the conference championship talk is laughable.

2007: Central Michigan 7-5, won the west, played Miami University in the championship (a team that went 6-6), and lost to Purdue in the Motor City Bowl. Finished 8-6. They did not play a top 25 team the entire year.

2008: Finished 2nd in West to Ball State that went 12-2 overall, CM went 8-6 that year. They played #2 Georgia and #17 Ball State, and lost both. (Those were the ranks at the time they played.)

2009: Went 10-2, lost to Arizona and Boston College. Did not play a top 25 team all year. Beat Ohio in Championship game (Ohio went 9-3 in conference).

2010: Went 4-8 at Cincinnati.

2011: Went 9-3 with losses to UT, #18 WV, and Rutgers. Was conference co-champion with West Virginia because the Big East didn't play a championship game.

2012: Went 9-3 with losses to Toledo, #14 Louisville, and #22 Rutgers. Was a co-champion with THREE OTHER TEAMS... LOL. Louisville, Rutgers, Syracuse all went 5-2 in conference.

Color me excited. I want him to succeed, I do. But this is not the "get me excited" hire. This is not the "sign me up for season tickets again" hire.

 

[J.Chris]

Gruden was never happening. Never close. Everyone who says it was close only thought so because of crap they read on messageboards, which ranks below the Yahoo comments section in credibility. I can only hope everyone starts to understand that now.

 

[FooVol]

I'm curious as to the effect this will have on our recruiting class as well as our juniors.

Pretty sure we lose half of our Offense

 

[Unknown Muppet]

I'm curious as to the effect this will have on our recruiting class as well as our juniors.

I truly believe it would have taken an absolute splash hire to keep the juniors.

 

[volatil]

I hope Butch hires Sonny Dykes as OC.

You mean the Cal HC???

 

[peerless98]

Gay4bray, lmao, what about those leaks? Now run off and change your screen name. I said you were a scam from the beginning. I feel a little bad for the OG's because I truly believe they were given bad info. Gay4bray was just a poser.

 

[photovol]

Dave Hart has ruined Tennessee Football....no more to say.....it's over for me

 

[rjd970]

That's ok. I never sought anyone's approval, or attempted to convince.

I've apologized, and shown up to take my lumps. I'm not certain What else I can do.

You're entitled to whatever opinion you hold.of me.

BS. Why the **** post it in the first place? lol.

Seriously dude, geez.

 

[olbemw7]

UT is like an old friend that you just don't have as much in common with anymore but you remember the good ole' days fondly.

qft

 

[ApacheVol]

Go easy on the 100% guys. I'm sure they don't want to be as gullible as they are.

 

[TennTakedown]

I cant believe people are calling the ogs the trolls. Its very obvious there was fire with all this.

Cheek + hart = biggest troll job in history

 

[Unknown Muppet]

Oh come on... the conference championship talk is laughable.

2007: Central Michigan 7-5, won the west, played Miami University in the championship (a team that went 6-6), and lost to Purdue in the Motor City Bowl. Finished 8-6. They did not play a top 25 team the entire year.

2008: Finished 2nd in West to Ball State that went 12-2 overall, CM went 8-6 that year. They played #2 Georgia and #17 Ball State, and lost both. (Those were the ranks at the time they played.)

2009: Went 10-2, lost to Arizona and Boston College. Did not play a top 25 team all year. Beat Ohio in Championship game (Ohio went 9-3 in conference).

2010: Went 4-8 at Cincinnati.

2011: Went 9-3 with losses to UT, #18 WV, and Rutgers. Was conference co-champion with West Virginia because the Big East didn't play a championship game.

2012: Went 9-3 with losses to Toledo, #14 Louisville, and #22 Rutgers. Was a co-champion with THREE OTHER TEAMS... LOL. Louisville, Rutgers, Syracuse all went 5-2 in conference.

Color me excited. I want him to succeed, I do. But this is not the "get me excited" hire. This is not the "sign me up for season tickets again" hire.

I'm going to wait on the staff and see what's up.

Not excited, just curious.

 

[vol lady]

I have been following VN since 2008 with Fulmer's firing and Kiffin's hiring, Dooley's desperation hire and now this mess. What I don't understand is how the boosters could be so close to landing Gruden (up to last night by some on this board) and then Hart go in the middle of the night so to speak and hire Butch Jones! The boosters must have known Hart was talking to Gundy, offered and was rejected by Strong - they should have gotten him out of the way earlier this week. These facts do not line up with boosters waking up shocked this morning - they should have been shocked back on Tuesday! And to be pregnant during this fiasco hasn't helped my blood pressure either! LOL :banghead2: