Official Jon Gruden Thread XVI

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Just realized that jones has recruited just as good if not better than the Arkansas hire. Red flag for them IMO. Wisconsin should bury Cincy in recruiting
 
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keithvol1071 said:
Last men standing it looks like....its been interesting to say the least. I signed up during all this. Not sure where to go now. I guess the recruiting place is the next step huh? Hoping our new coach surprises us all and hauls in a great class. Peace out guys and GO VOLS!
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I really believe his sucess at TN will hinge on the D. I think the offense will be fine but the SEC is all about Defense.
 
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Just a few things:

Crazy things - Some folks bought the Gruden hire hook, line, and sinker; OG's now say they never tried to convince anyone of anything, lmao; some of them are actually claiming they only "speculated"; instead of saying, "According to what I am told I believe....", they said, "It is done!" By the language I speak, that's definitive not speculative.

Sad thing - The fans created the Gruden myth and now blame Hart for screwing up their myth.

Pitiful thing - CBJ is a proven winner, but he will have to prove it to Vol fans before he's accepted.

I'll just say I'm glad I didn't believe it; I wanted it to happen but was never convinced Gruden would be the best thing for UT. I had a lot of fun with the posters in this thread though. I am a Vol and will support UT regardless of the coach. Go Vols!
 
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peerless98 said:
Imagine how mad folks will be if when Gruden ends up in college football down the road.
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Fixed it for ya. I don't think it's a matter of if, but matter when he goes back into coaching. I think we had the opportune time and if he isn't back this year or next, I'll be surprised.

Problem is, the story will never come out on how close we were or were not. Those that know will probably clam up about it and support the new coach whether they like him or not. So no need bothering the OGs for a story that won't get told. (not directed at you Peerless)

Hart is going to stick to the party line and not cut his throat in an interview by saying "we didn't pursue him like we might have."

Boosters are going to remain loyal to the cause and show their support because ultimately they support the program which is bigger than one man.

But one thing is for certain, if Hart double crossed the boosters, I can see him packing within say two to six months. Give it enough time to safely say "it wasn't because of the hire" but for certain, someone's heading back to Bama to fill out their resume because you don't piss off the men holding the money.
 
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peerless98 said:
Just a few things:

Crazy things - Some folks bought the Gruden hire hook, line, and sinker; OG's now say they never tried to convince anyone of anything, lmao; some of them are actually claiming they only "speculated"; instead of saying, "According to what I am told I believe....", they said, "It is done!" By the language I speak, that's definitive not speculative.

Sad thing - The fans created the Gruden myth and now blame Hart for screwing up their myth.

Pitiful thing - CBJ is a proven winner, but he will have to prove it to Vol fans before he's accepted.

I'll just say I'm glad I didn't believe it; I wanted it to happen but was never convinced Gruden would be the best thing for UT. I had a lot of fun with the posters in this thread though. I am a Vol and will support UT regardless of the coach. Go Vols!
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My thoughts exactly.
 
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I just want you to know that I have loved these threads.


Boro, not blaming you man. I'm sure you thought your info was legit. I am not being sarcastic.
 
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VFL23 said:
I do like BJ more than I did Dooley, but that doesn't say much. However, he does seem to be the type of guy that gets the most out of his players, which Dooley did not. I would love to have some 5* recruits here, but not if they have the attitude of Bray. I would rather have a low 4* with a chip on his shoulder, than a punk that thinks he is better than the coach or program.
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I like a BJ too
 
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CourtJester said:
If as reported his buyout is only $2m starting from day one either he's very confident in his ability or Hart did a better job negotiating than Hammy did with Dooley. That's not much more than his buyout at Cincy ($1.4m). If things don't get better quickly the buyout won't be an impediment to making another move, that's for sure.
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Well scratch that thought as the KNS article is wrong. It's $2m per contract year remaining, not a flat $2m. That's higher than Dooley's buyout. Good grief.
 
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ForkedDeerVol said:
Hart is taking questions now, First question was about Gruden. He said he reached out to Gruden in the beginning and Grudens agent said he was not interested.
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My take? You don't ask if there's interest, you go in with a offer in hand and say "here's what we're willing to pay and with benefits package." Let Gruden say no. An agent's responsibility is to pass along offers to his client. And if (big if) the offer was "wow!" enough, he will pass it along to his client. And let's face it, if the rumors about the total sum were true (in the $6M range), it was a contract his agent probably would have mentioned.

One of two things, either Hart didn't go into negotiations hard enough or the initial offer was one the agent scoffed at. You don't just call up someone and ask "hey guy, wanna coach at the University of Tennessee?"
 
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CourtJester said:
Well scratch that thought as the KNS article is wrong. It's $2m per contract year remaining, not a flat $2m. That's higher than Dooley's buyout. Good grief.
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Doesn't matter, they won't fire him for losing. UT is perfectly happy with a ****ty bowl game appearance. If he can bat .500 here, we won't be paying his buyout.
 
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Evening gents. Been a crazy day at work, haven't been able to keep up with anything. Did the presser happen and does anyone know if its available to watch anywhere? Also any other news? Sorry for asking for recap , just only able to take like a 10 min break and gotta get back at it.
 
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