Official Nashville Predators Thread

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A brief history of the Preds

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Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook pegged both teams (Preds and Sens) with 30-1 odds to win the Stanley Cup. Only the Maple Leafs and Blues faced longer odds.
 
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I admittedly don't follow hockey all that closely. Is it normal for lower seeded teams to make runs like this?

Good luck to the Predators. Hope they win the cup. It's nice to finally see a TN team doing something again.
 
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orangepridenation said:
I admittedly don't follow hockey all that closely. Is it normal for lower seeded teams to make runs like this?

Good luck to the Predators. Hope they win the cup. It's nice to finally see a TN team doing something again.
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It's happened a few times recently in hockey.
 
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So we got the penguins 🐧. I must say, they don't seem to play as physically as the western conference teams. Hopefully that works in our favor.
 
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orangepridenation said:
I admittedly don't follow hockey all that closely. Is it normal for lower seeded teams to make runs like this?
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Yes. The NHL isn't the NBA, which I really like. Highly seeded teams make deep playoff runs all the time. The Kings won the Cup several years ago as an 8 seed out of the West.

And yes, I personally thought many of the things in that "brief history of the Preds list" :)

Particularly the parts about not being able to develop forwards and not being able to go all the way with Rinne - not because he isn't talented enough but because he'd get worn out during the regular season.

This year, he played the smallest number of minutes over the course of a full regular season as he has in a long time. He typically plays 3800-3900 minutes, even played over 4100 minutes in 2011-12. Played just 3568 this year, and I think it is serving him and the entire team well in the playoffs. Of course, he's also got probably the best defensive squad playing in front of him that he's ever had in Nashville.
 
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orangepridenation said:
I admittedly don't follow hockey all that closely. Is it normal for lower seeded teams to make runs like this?

Good luck to the Predators. Hope they win the cup. It's nice to finally see a TN team doing something again.
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Yankee_Vol said:
It's happened a few times recently in hockey.
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It happening with a seed this low appears to be fairly rare, though.

It looks like the only times an 8 seed appear to have made the Stanley Cup finals are 2006 (Edmonton) and 2012 (Los Angeles), with the former losing in 7 games and the latter winning in 6 games.

This looks like it's also the first time that the team that was at the very bottom of the overall playoff field has made the Stanley Cup Finals (Nashville's 94 points based on its regular season record / standings was the lowest from both conferences).



(Edit: Well technically, in the West the seventh seed Calgary also had 94 points, but having 41 regulation + overtime wins to Nashville's 39 resulted in them receiving the higher playoff seed.)
 
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05_never_again said:
Yes. The NHL isn't the NBA, which I really like. Highly seeded teams make deep playoff runs all the time. The Kings won the Cup several years ago as an 8 seed out of the West.
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I only counted 3 8-seeds making the Stanley Cup (including the Predators this year), with only one team -West 8th seed Los Angeles against East 6th seed Detroit- being victorious (and 1 TBD).

As far as 7-seeds, it looked like 4 had made it - Philadelphia in 2010, Anaheim in 2003, Buffalo in 1999 (must have been a heartbreaking year for teams in that city), and Vancouver in 1994 - with all 4 losing.


Essentially, four 6-seeds have made the finals in total - San Jose in 2016, Detroit in 2012 and Calgary in 2004 had made the Stanley Cup finals but lost, however the LA Kings won as a 6-seed in 2014.


(You could perhaps also count the 1991 Minnesota North Stars as sort of another 7-seed that made the finals and lost and the 1993 Los Angeles Kings as another 6-seed that did so and lost; the NHL seeding system has jumped around quite a bit in its history).



It looked like the Stanley Cup Finals have pretty much been mostly a big cluster of teams in the 1-4 seed range playing each other when it comes to the matchups.
 
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TrueOrange said:
It happening with a seed this low appears to be fairly rare, though.

It looks like the only times an 8 seed appear to have made the Stanley Cup finals are 2006 (Edmonton) and 2012 (Los Angeles), with the former losing in 7 games and the latter winning in 6 games.

This looks like it's also the first time that the team that was at the very bottom of the overall playoff field has made the Stanley Cup Finals (Nashville's 94 points based on its regular season record / standings was the lowest from both conferences).



(Edit: Well technically, in the West the seventh seed Calgary also had 94 points, but having 41 regulation + overtime wins to Nashville's 39 resulted in them receiving the higher playoff seed.)
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It depends on seeding. The NHL has changed it a few times.

If you seeded all the teams in the playoffs this year, Nashville would be 16th
 
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TrueOrange said:
I only counted 3 8-seeds making the Stanley Cup (including the Predators this year), with only one team -West 8th seed Los Angeles against East 6th seed Detroit- being victorious (and 1 TBD).

As far as 7-seeds, it looked like 4 had made it - Philadelphia in 2010, Anaheim in 2003, Buffalo in 1999 (must have been a heartbreaking year for teams in that city), and Vancouver in 1994 - with all 4 losing.


Essentially, four 6-seeds have made the finals in total - San Jose in 2016, Detroit in 2012 and Calgary in 2004 had made the Stanley Cup finals but lost, however the LA Kings won as a 6-seed in 2014.


(You could perhaps also count the 1991 Minnesota North Stars as sort of another 7-seed that made the finals and lost and the 1993 Los Angeles Kings as another 6-seed that did so and lost; the NHL seeding system has jumped around quite a bit in its history).



It looked like the Stanley Cup Finals have pretty much been mostly a big cluster of teams in the 1-4 seed range playing each other when it comes to the matchups.
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Of course the higher seeds (1-4) make it more often, but it is my no means unheard of to have lower seeds or even #8 seeds make it far or win it all.

Contrast this with the NBA, which hasn't had any seed other than a #1 or #2 make the Finals in 6 years. The last time a team outside of the #1 - #4 seed range (i.e., outside of the top half) make the Finals was 1999.

In any given year, the NBA has 3, 4 teams tops that have any shot whatsoever of winning it all. And the winner almost always comes from the best 2 of those teams. It's not really like that in any other professional sport.
 
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Also, I was in Montreal for work this past week. They have complicated feelings about Subban, but I was kind of surprised and happy to see that many up there are pulling for Nashville because of P.K.
 
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05_never_again said:
Of course the higher seeds (1-4) make it more often, but it is my no means unheard of to have lower seeds or even #8 seeds make it far or win it all.

Contrast this with the NBA, which hasn't had any seed other than a #1 or #2 make the Finals in 6 years. The last time a team outside of the #1 - #4 seed range (i.e., outside of the top half) make the Finals was 1999.

In any given year, the NBA has 3, 4 teams tops that have any shot whatsoever of winning it all. And the winner almost always comes from the best 2 of those teams. It's not really like that in any other professional sport.
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With the the new NHL playoff seeding system that started 4 years ago, you can't really compare it to other sports. The Pens had the second highest point total in the conference and played the third best team in round 1 and the best team in round 2. No other major sport seeds teams like that.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
With the the new NHL playoff seeding system that started 4 years ago, you can't really compare it to other sports. The Pens had the second highest point total in the conference and played the third best team in round 1 and the best team in round 2. No other major sport seeds teams like that.
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Parity in the NHL has been better than the NBA for a long time, much further back than 4 years ago. Regardless, the Predators this year swept the best team in the West and the Vegas favorite to win the whole thing and had the fewest points of any playoff team. That is unfathomable in the NBA.

The deal with NBA parity is that it isn't exactly their fault - it is just the nature of the game of basketball. If you have one really good player in basketball, that oftentimes is enough to get you into the playoffs. Not anything beyond that, but you can be a .500 team, perhaps even better than that, with 1 great player, a couple role players, and the rest scrubs.
 
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