Official: UT hires Kim Caldwell as the new coach for Lady Vols basketball

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BigOrangeGirl said:
Why should female athletes have to be “ladies”? Do you have the same standard for male athletes to be “gentleman”? The sexist comments here sometimes are unbelievable.
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Actually I do. I don't know @ OP. So, yes, I appreciate a coach who builds not only a winner, but does it with winning off the court as much as on. CPS comes to mind.
 
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BigOrangeGirl said:
Why should female athletes have to be “ladies”? Do you have the same standard for male athletes to be “gentleman”? The sexist comments here sometimes are unbelievable.
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If you really want an answer, use google and learn the history. It is a positive appropriation of Lady and worn with pride by all ex-Lady Vols across all the sports (I am married to one..)
 
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madtownvol said:
If you really want an answer, use google and learn the history. It is a positive appropriation of Lady and worn with pride by all ex-Lady Vols across all the sports (I am married to one..)
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I don’t need to google to learn the history. To say that women are not “ladies” because they don’t act the way you want them (from your male perspective) is sexist and misogynistic. That is such an old fashioned and degrading way to view women.
 
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livefaith said:
Actually I do. I don't know @ OP. So, yes, I appreciate a coach who builds not only a winner, but does it with winning off the court as much as on. CPS comes to mind.
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That’s interesting. I’ll be looking to see the reactions to the male athletes when they’re not being “gentleman”. I highly doubt they’ll be called out for it.
 
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madtownvol said:
We are "high" profile but so are a lot of other schools. Right now, I am not sure our profile would be considered top 10. Even Kara's "handle hard better" vital video put the Duke program in the limelight in way not seen with the LVs. Poor Rickea got lost in the lack of limelight this season despite putting up all american stats.

Speaking as a Kellie supporter, there was a problem and it is not going to get solved until the LVs reach the FF again (and that will be a huger resurgence story) and/or recruit the next Candace.

There are now confirmed reports that White reached out to the Indiana coach, Teri Moren. She is right in the sweet spot and many might think that she would jump at the LVs. But U of Indiana has huge b-ball tradition. she has built a really strong program (winning the BIg 10 regular season title) has comittments to curent players and strong recruiting class, plus whatever personal ties she has to the area. Sometimes more $ (if that was indeed on the table) does not mean that much to someone is well paid and in a great position.

I argued in the days after kellie was hired, that it seemed like White might have miscalculated and was in a scramble mode to fill the job. I was told, "Nonsense, the almighty Danny White never, Becky Hammon, etc, is on the way).

It sure looks now like he was scrambling....

Report indicates IU’s Teri Moren turned down one of college basketball’s top jobs
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"...reached out to..." is not the same as offering. We went through this in the football coach search. ADs meet with all sorts of coaches to pick their brains, and maybe with some to make a first-hand assessment. But making an offer would likely be a different meeting.

Now maybe he actually did offer Moren and she turned it down. But confirmation of that requires a primary source saying it, not just someone's dot-connecting out in the hallway.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
"...reached out to..." is not the same as offering. We went through this in the football coach search. ADs meet with all sorts of coaches to pick their brains, and maybe with some to make a first-hand assessment. But making an offer would likely be a different meeting.

Now maybe he actually did offer Moren and she turned it down. But confirmation of that requires a primary source saying it, not just someone's dot-connecting out in the hallway.
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According to a report by women’s college basketball writer Mitchell Northam, Moren was pursued by Tennessee to become their new head coach but rejected those overtures.
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Of course, this report from the Daily Hoosier is mere subterfuge to mask the three dimensional chess game played by DW

Obviously, his first and only choice would have been the first year coach from Marshall because Tennessee is the job every coach in the country wants (makes perfect sense so long as you don't think about it)

Insane to think he would have attempted to hire someone who has had a high degree of success at the D1 level for the job everyone wanted.
 
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BigOrangeGirl said:
That’s interesting. I’ll be looking to see the reactions to the male athletes when they’re not being “gentleman”. I highly doubt they’ll be called out for it.
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Well, actually they.are and IMO should be. Remember Jeremy Banks. Many still take issue with his off field antics even when he was the clear leader of our defense yr before last. I'm glad CRB has us winning. But how he influences boys into gentlemen is even more impressive IMO. It matters to a lot of people, men and women.

But, if you wanna hang on to your agenda, you're welcome to it.
 
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VolCalls said:
The only think our proven winning coach proved was that she couldn’t live up to the standard Pat set for this program.
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She had a winning record and put the team into the play off's each year. Good luck getting a top coach when they know they got 3 -4 years to win the NC or they are gone. Right now a few teams ( SC/UCONN/NCarolina ) are getting all the top recruits and a new coach cannot make players come to play for them. But we'll see how the new coach does...I hope she brings it.
 
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JohnnyPayne said:
Wow! Well at least DW will give her millions of dollars for NIL...
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Amazingly ignorant. The AD does not dispense NIL, despite all the hateful ignorant conformist and boring drivel posted here. That's not how NIL works -- or why it works. It's not even legal.

Stop undermining the new coach and give to our collective. $5 a month, more if you can. If you seriously in truth can't afford $5 a month, then do your part by supporting our collectives in speech and never ever advise others against joining.

Simple. If you have a business, think about getting involved that way, too.
 
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livefaith said:
Well, actually they.are and IMO should be. Remember Jeremy Banks. Many still take issue with his off field antics even when he was the clear leader of our defense yr before last. I'm glad CRB has us winning. But how he influences boys into gentlemen is even more impressive IMO. It matters to a lot of people, men and women.

But, if you wanna hang on to your agenda, you're welcome to it.
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You and other posters here are making sexist comments. My taking offense to that is not “an agenda”. But if you would like to continue with your misogynistic attitude you’re welcome to it.
 
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spojo13 said:
She will have to. Not sure she has any contacts at this level though.
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Dang, I sure hope our AD discussed this with her before he made a firm offer. I guess he could just be playing the I hope I am lucky card so I can keep my job. Wonder how this Heupel thing is trending. Naysayers led the way on that hire too.

Gosh some of these reactions are just plain sad.
 
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BigOrangeGirl said:
You and other posters here are making sexist comments. My taking offense to that is not “an agenda”. But if you would like to continue with your misogynistic attitude you’re welcome to it.
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I love this. YOU are the only one with any sexist comment in this exchange. In fact your entire accusation of the fanbase was sexist. And misogyny 🤣. You're killing me and probably can't see it at all. 🤣
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Dang, I sure hope our AD discussed this with her before he made a firm offer. I guess he could just be playing the I hope I am lucky card so I can keep my job. Wonder how this Heupel thing is trending. Naysayers led the way on that hire too.

Gosh some of these reactions are just plain sad.
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What about what I typed made you have that hissy fit? I said I don’t know if she had those contacts. I’m sure Danny has a plan. Calm down
 
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livefaith said:
I love this. YOU are the only one with any sexist comment in this exchange. In fact your entire accusation of the fanbase was sexist. And misogyny 🤣. You're killing me and probably can't see it at all. 🤣
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You obviously don’t even know what misogyny means. I realize there’s not a lot of women here, but the digs and the sexist comments are neither necessary nor appreciated. You don’t seem to want to do better and that’s sad.
 
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spojo13 said:
I would think that would be the safest route honestly, maybe Danny suggested that?
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hope so,,,Sam loves TN,,,she was hugely offended when this was questioned in posts earlier this year..responded with TikToks

Sam bleeds orange and I give her a pass of being Kellie's staff for one primary reason...I watched the games, more importantly, I watched the sidelines.

Jon and Joy were listened to and sought out by Kellie,,,Not one time do I remember Kellie looking to/for Coach Sam for ideas/inspiration,,,not once.

For this observance, I would keep Coach Sam and let her show if she can succeed when fully included.

And these are my observances, not anyone I talk to's
this is what I saw
 
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spojo13 said:
What about what I typed made you have that hissy fit? I said I don’t know if she had those contacts. I’m sure Danny has a plan. Calm down
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Then why waste bandwidth flaunting your ignorance on an issue? Was that your purpose for your post? You don’t think this was part of the vetting process by DW? Bet it came up.

She does not have a lot of experience, but what she has is really good. Where are all the “you are what your record says you are” guys. What she does not have is a lot of baggage.
 
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Coach Jumper said:
this is why keeping coach Sam makes sense,,,the recruits/contacts are mostly hers anyway
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I see the rationale I really do. It makes sense

But I hope Coach Caldwell doesn't (and Coach Sam finds a nice spot somewhere else) for the same reason that a new CEO generally cleans house when taking over. The legacy of a subperforming group has to be eradicated, even if it is not the underlings fault. Sam would be a reminder of the old guard and that can't be.

If you are the new leader, you get "your people" in place and you make they are damned good at what they do.
I am guessing that logic as much as anything, had something to do with White making the change.
 
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