Official Watch Party Thread (NCAAT seeding edition)

#82
#82
bleedingTNorange said:
Tonight’s games:
Marquette vs. UCONN
Wisconsin vs. Michigan State
Auburn vs. Arkansas
Kentucky vs. South Carolina
LSU vs. Texas A&M
Iowa State vs. West Virginia
Villanova vs. St. John’s
Illinois vs. Purdue
Pacific vs. USC
Saint Mary’s vs. Santa Clara
UCLA vs. Stanford
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I might lean Michigan St. Per KP they’ll only be favored in 3 of their last 8 games. Meanwhile Wisconsin won’t have many more losses. Wisconsin is 7 spots lower than us in the NET and Mich St is 11.
 
#83
#83
golfballs said:
I might lean Michigan St. Per KP they’ll only be favored in 3 of their last 8 games. Meanwhile Wisconsin won’t have many more losses. Wisconsin is 7 spots lower than us in the NET and Mich St is 11.
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I'm not understanding the Wisconsin love by the "experts". I saw one Fox Sports bracketologists on Twitter the other day say he just bumped Wiscy up to his final #1 seed. It makes no sense. Feels like there is some insane Big 10 bias going on.
 
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#84
#84
golfballs said:
I might lean Michigan St. Per KP they’ll only be favored in 3 of their last 8 games. Meanwhile Wisconsin won’t have many more losses. Wisconsin is 7 spots lower than us in the NET and Mich St is 11.
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Yea, I tossed that one around in my head for a minute…there’s a good or bad to either result and both will still be on the radar. Michigan State win increases our chances of catching Wisconsin, but also increases their chances of both finishing ahead of us.
 
#87
#87
TheMookieMonster said:
I'm not understanding the Wisconsin love by the "experts". I saw one Fox Sports bracketologists on Twitter the other day say he just bumped Wiscy up to his final #1 seed. It makes no sense. Feels like there is some insane Big 10 bias going on.
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Wisconsin has a pretty good record - better than they actually are. Which is one of the reasons the NCAA adopted the NET. Is to strike a balance between strength of record and predictive rating. Are the bracketologists still operating circa 2019? Or will the committee really just throw net mostly out the window and do whatever they want? Like I said earlier, last year the top 4 seeds were identical to their net ranking. And the teams that ranked 5-8 were all 2 seeds. as you get lower on the list they start making adjustments, but where Wisconsin currently ranks all but precludes them from being a top 2 seed.
 
#89
#89
golfballs said:
The Big 12 commissioner must have done most of the seeding last year because Texas and West Virginia last year both ranked 21, 23 in the net, but both got 3 seeds. Oklahoma St ranked 29th and got a 4.
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I feel like the selection committee each year just randomly picks a conference they perceive to be best outside of what the metrics tell them, and they inflate seeding based on their own opinion. It feels like the Big 10/Big 12 will be one of those conferences this year. I think the SEC is the overall best conference (or at least tied at the top), but it's not getting much love. Heck, we won the SEC/Big 12 challenge and I keep seeing analysts say the Big 12 is the best conference. Not sure how you could say that. At the very least the two should be on equal footing.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I feel like the selection committee each year just randomly picks a conference they perceive to be best outside of what the metrics tell them, and they inflate seeding based on their own opinion. It feels like the Big 10/Big 12 will be one of those conferences this year. I think the SEC is the overall best conference (or at least tied at the top), but it's not getting much love. Heck, we won the SEC/Big 12 challenge and I keep seeing analysts say the Big 12 is the best conference. Not sure how you could say that. At the very least the two should be on equal footing.
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What makes the big 12 tough is they only have 10 teams and none of them truly suck like Georgia or Missouri. They're all pretty competitve and have to play each other twice. So top to bottom they aren't weight down by really bad teams, but the meat of the conference isn't as good as it is in the SEC
 
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#92
bleedingTNorange said:
Tonight’s games:
Marquette vs. UCONN
Wisconsin vs. Michigan State
Auburn vs. Arkansas
Kentucky vs. South Carolina
LSU vs. Texas A&M
Iowa State vs. West Virginia
Villanova vs. St. John’s
Illinois vs. Purdue
Pacific vs. USC
Saint Mary’s vs. Santa Clara
UCLA vs. Stanford
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UCONN wins
Wisconsin wins
Auburn loses
South Carolina loses
A&M loses
West Virginia wins
St. John’s loses
Purdue wins
Santa Clara wins
Stanford loses
 
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#96
Tonight’s games:
Houston vs. SMU
Ohio State vs. Rutgers
Xavier vs. Seton Hall
Baylor vs. Kansas State
Texas Tech vs. Oklahoma
Alabama vs. Ole Miss
 
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#97
#97
Just curious, why would we want Oklahoma to beat TT? Don't we want to TT to keep winning to make our loss to them look better?
 
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#98
#98
CBVols said:
Just curious, why would we want Oklahoma to beat TT? Don't we want to TT to keep winning to make our lose to them look better?
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Our loss to them already looks good. It’s not going to look much better. We want them to lose because we are fighting them on the seed line. Only so many spots available for a 3 or 4 seed.
 
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Kind of minor, but the committee will sometimes cite record vs the field when doing the seeding. Florida making the field would help in that case. They seem to be right on the bubble
 
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