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#101
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BasketvolsFan said:
If that's true, your posts should provide a much better example of your knowledge then. There is a shortage of VERY GOOD point guards in the NBA now. If these VERY GOOD point guards existed, they would have no trouble being drafted.
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Whatever you say. Of the teams left in the playoffs, every team has a good point guard.

As far as Maze is concerned, I agree with you about him up until the last half of last season.
 
#102
#102
Maze was nothing special. If Pearl had ever managed to recruit a truly good point guard in his time at UT, some of his first round- Sweet 16 teams would've been truly dangerous in the NCAA tourney.
 
#103
#103
Maze was decent, but I don't see how you can say he was "very good" on any level. Stats aren't everything, but if he were as good as you're saying, his averages would reflect it.
 
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#104
shortgameVol said:
Whatever you say. Of the teams left in the playoffs, every team has a good point guard.

As far as Maze is concerned, I agree with you about him up until the last half of last season.
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Dallas Mavs/Jason Kidd: Well past his prime, but still a savvy vet who has changed his game from a tempo pushing slash n assist man to a spot up 3pt specialist and great executor of the half court offense. Still, he is 38 and can't keep up with the ELITE PG's in the NBA.

OKC Thunder/Westbrook: Great PG who has yet to peak IMO.

Memphis Grizz/Mike Conley: Servicable at best. He has played above his ceiling this post-season and hit some massively big shots, but all-in-all, not even close to an All-Star calibur player.

Miami Heat/Mike Bibby: Umm... not a good PG on this roster by any stretch. Not like they need one with Wade and Lebron dominating the ball.

Boston Celtics/Rondo: I concede, they have a great yound PG in Rondo.

Chicago Bulls/D-Rose: Again, I concede. Great PG, MVP of the league.

Atlanta Hawks/"Insert name here:" The duo of Teague and Heinrich are super scary... lmao



Sooo... Every team left in the NBA playoff's does NOT have a good PG in summation. Trust me, I know PG's. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Select last night
 
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#106
I will say this, he threw about the best oops of any PG I have ever watched. If his accuracy on his J was as accurate as his oops, he would've been a great PG. He was a very good on ball defender as well.
 
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#108
DaDuRkEr said:
I will say this, he threw about the best oops of any PG I have ever watched. If his accuracy on his J was as accurate as his oops, he would've been a great PG. He was a very good on ball defender as well.
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Actually, he was a pretty good shooter

Here's what's funny: I said he was very good over the last half of last season.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
at the very, very best.
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I sometimes think people's memories have gone fuzzy and they think it was Maze bailing UT out against San Diego State. Maze was exactly what you would expect to get from a guy who couldn't get on the floor for one the worst Oklahoma teams in a generation.
 
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#110
Oh no, I distinctly remember Goins dropping bombs on his buddies and sending them packing.

I commend Maze on his on-ball defense, and his oop throwing abilities while we had several players who could flat out go up and get it. He would've never thrived in a half court set, but he was a decent tempo pushing PG and was very bothersome on several of the top PG's in the NCAA during Maze's tenure. He shut some folks down
 
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#111
DaDuRkEr said:
Oh no, I distinctly remember Goins dropping bombs on his buddies and sending them packing.

I commend Maze on his on-ball defense, and his oop throwing abilities while we had several players who could flat out go up and get it. He would've never thrived in a half court set, but he was a decent tempo pushing PG and was very bothersome on several of the top PG's in the NCAA during Maze's tenure. He shut some folks down
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He also got lit up a bunch. Maze was adequate, at best, defensively.
 
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#112
Inconsistent I will go with, but there were a few games where he stepped up the intensity and showed he could dominate. Sheron Collins lit him up good though...
 
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#113
hatvol96 said:
He also got lit up a bunch. Maze was adequate, at best, defensively.
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again, at the very, very best. The nights he was shooting it well, he was solid. The rest, his D, limited ability to go left and fear of making a tough pass was anything but solid.
 
#115
#115
hatvol96 said:
I sometimes think people's memories have gone fuzzy and they think it was Maze bailing UT out against San Diego State. Maze was exactly what you would expect to get from a guy who couldn't get on the floor for one the worst Oklahoma teams in a generation.
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I didn't see that anywhere in this thread.
 
#118
#118
hatvol96 said:
He also got lit up a bunch. Maze was adequate, at best, defensively.
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Maze was adequate for the most part his senior year. He was an utter defensive disaster his junior year, and almost single-handedly gave half our opposing guards career nights.
 
#120
#120
BasketvolsFan said:
shortgameVol said:
No, it's accurate[/QUOTE]

Only in your fantasy world.
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Maybe so, but like I said on numerous occasions, I will stack my opinion up with yours any day of the week. Again, remind me where you played and coached collegiately. Don't give me the standard Hat answer either. It's the SOS with a select few in here that think their opinion is more valid. I've talked to guys who FORGOT more than you will ever know about the game that think Maze had a solid senior season.
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#121
#121
shortgameVol said:
I've talked to guys who FORGOT more than you will ever know about the game that think Maze had a solid senior season.
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Oh, they didn't say he was an outstanding point guard and was very good? I could have sworn that that's what you've been saying, and everyone else had said he was solid at best. And now, you're admitting that your basketball guru friends share our opinion and not yours. Interesting.
 
#122
#122
LawVol13 said:
Oh, they didn't say he was an outstanding point guard and was very good? I could have sworn that that's what you've been saying, and everyone else had said he was solid at best. And now, you're admitting that your basketball guru friends share our opinion and not yours. Interesting.
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I said he was very good the last half of last season. BTW, they're not basketball guru friends. They're coaches. You're a "wannabee" guru that doesn't know nearly as much as you think you do.

Solid is a lot closer to very good than average or serviceable. Just so you know.

Now run along
 
#123
#123
shortgameVol said:
I said he was very good the last half of last season. BTW, they're not basketball guru friends. They're coaches
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He had a couple good games and many, many mediocre games. He didn't make anyone better, and he was an average, at best, on ball defender. Couple those two things with the fact that he was a very streaky shooter, and you get mediocrity. The only thing Bobby Maze was "very good" at was freethrow shooting. He was by far our best in that area.
 
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