Oil Rig Explosion

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nickknx865 said:
I've heard that those chemicals could potentially kill some fish, especially those who remain pretty close to the surface(obvious).
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100,000 gallons or more of any chemical will probably kill some fish...I just wonder how bad the effects are. The good thing is that surfactants are water-soluble, so they won't be taken up in the fish like the oil.
 
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nickknx865 said:
I've heard that those chemicals could potentially kill some fish, especially those who remain pretty close to the surface(obvious).
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the point of the ones by nalco are that they make the oil bead up and weigh more than water. in other words they go to the bottom of hte ocean.
 
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droski said:
the point of the ones by nalco are that they make the oil bead up and weigh more than water. in other words they go to the bottom of hte ocean.
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Ahh......knew that they were spreading a chemical, just didn't know what exactly it did.
 
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#79
So apparently none of the several blowout preventers were activated due to how fast the blowout was. My question is who is regulating these drillers? The nuclear power industry is heavily regulated by the NRC, which is both necessary but also expensive for the industry. But who is making sure that these incidents are not occurring?
 
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Weezy said:
So apparently none of the several blowout preventers were activated due to how fast the blowout was. My question is who is regulating these drillers? The nuclear power industry is heavily regulated by the NRC, which is both necessary but also expensive for the industry. But who is making sure that these incidents are not occurring?
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i believe the primary problem was the explosion. i.e no one was around to shut off the valve. the remote control shut off valves that people have been talking about have actually never been tested since the other shut offs have always worked in prior instances.
 
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#81
From someone more familiar with the nuclear industry, relying on panic buttons for primary safety systems as oppose to automatic controls seems fairly irresponsible.
 
#82
#82
i'd argue we're talking about apples and oranges here. with a nuclear meltdown you might not be even be able to get to said shutoff valve. im sure they have some sort of automatic shut off, but if the explosion blows that up too it's not very helpful
 
#83
#83
I don't think the acoustic trigger would have averted the blowout in this case--not if the BOP itself is defective or insufficient to handle the gas pocket.
 
#86
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Weezy said:
So apparently none of the several blowout preventers were activated due to how fast the blowout was. My question is who is regulating these drillers? The nuclear power industry is heavily regulated by the NRC, which is both necessary but also expensive for the industry. But who is making sure that these incidents are not occurring?
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The MMS.
 
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Catbone said:
Haven't seen this posted so... Did North Korea Torpedo Oil Rig In US Gulf? what do you guys think?
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My first thought was sabotage.

An accident like this is unprecedented.

There are several sophisticated entities who would love to see not one more well in American controled areas unless it is drilled by them and shown no shyness about doing anything possible to achieve their agendas.
 
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#88
I'm just glad that the All-Halliburton & Friends outfit got to Cheney and got rid of that stupid regulation about the oil companies having a contingency to prevent this. We dodged a bullet on that right there.
 
#89
#89
yeah the prior 60 years of safety really point to a lack of regulation as the problem.
 
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#91
This article is written by Chris Reddy, who is a marine chemist, of sorts. My group here is collaborating with him on a project. His work is very interesting, and he repsponds to most oil spills, taking samples to understand how oil affects ecosystems (and also collecting evidence for cases that are unclear from a litigation standpoint). This article doesn't provide a lot of detail, but it does peer a bit into the mind of the responders on what their current thinking is....and the challenges as they see them.

A different kind of battle in the Gulf - The Boston Globe
 
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#94
There are times where I find myself saying, "Wow, Sarah Palin couldn't say something any dumber".....

And then she does.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Oh boy.

"Gulf of Mexico oil slick: Sarah Palin fuels anti-British sentiment"

Bonus irony: "Her comments came despite the fact her husband Todd Palin worked for BP for 18 years, as a production supervisor, and only left the company last year to spend more time with his family."
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guess you didn't bother to read the part of the article where someone from the Sierra Club agrees with Sarah.

and so what if Todd worked there for 18 years? Does your wife (or significant other) blindly support the company you work for just because you work there?
 
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MG1968 said:
and so what if Todd worked there for 18 years? Does your wife (or significant other) blindly support the company you work for just because you work there?
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Good point. Maybe she has first-hand insight into why we shouldn't trust BP.

But really, is there any reason to think this was more likely to happen to BP because it is a "foreign" company?

Someone try to make that case with a straight face.
 
#98
#98
I'm not sure how a "foreign" a publicly traded multinational corporation really is. Plenty of Americans own stock in BP.
 
#99
#99
BP's historical record when it comes to enviromental issues is absolutely superior to the american owned oil companies.
 
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