OK Dooms Dayers, Now do we Fire Pearl?

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(NCGatorBait @ Dec 23 said:
He did split with UF every yr and won a few big games...but most of the mens bball coaches at UT haven't lit it up either bro!
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Jerry Green owned Florida as well for a while and dare I say "lit it up"...How many big games did Buzz win????? list them please...
We lost tons of close games because Buzz can't coach. We also lost to Chattanooga at home and were a joke in the SEC tourny every year. We were an alleged pile of slop on neutral courts and an absolute bunch of bafoons on the road
 
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(VolBeef88 @ Dec 23 said:
I guess Christmas came early for all you dooms dayers out there (if you are one you will know it). Now you can complain and gripe out our HFC and our HBBC. You get a 2fer for Christmas. You all must have been real good this year.

(insert sarcasm smilie here)
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No we wait until he goes seven consecutive years without winning a SEC championship and seven straight years without getting in the Big Dance ( BCS Bowl equivalent), and has a year when,despite being ranked as high as preseason #2 in the natiion, has a losing record, looking ugly in the process...not to mention the dozen preseason arrests. This my friend is when we fire the man.
 
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(rockydoc @ Dec 23 said:
No we wait until he goes seven consecutive years without winning a SEC championship and seven straight years without getting in the Big Dance ( BCS Bowl equivalent), and has a year when,despite being ranked as high as preseason #2 in the natiion, has a losing record, looking ugly in the process...not to mention the dozen preseason arrests. This my friend is when we fire the man.
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Amen brother.
 
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(NCGatorBait @ Dec 23 said:
He did split with UF every yr and won a few big games...but most of the mens bball coaches at UT haven't lit it up either bro!
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I'm sure you guys would have preferred for UT to have kept Buzz, so we could routinely be expected to finish near the bottom of the east, just like we wish Florida would have kept Zook, one of the few coaches in the conferences Fulmer had a good winning % against. Just like we thought it was a bad idea for Ga to to get rid of Donelly, because UT owned Ga under Donelly. But I guess Ga got tired of losing.

Funny how the gator fans are the first criticize UT for getting rid of Buzz, when they get rid of Zook who never even had a losing season there!
 
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(oklavol @ Dec 24 said:
Funny how the gator fans are the first criticize UT for getting rid of Buzz, when they get rid of Zook who never even had a losing season there!
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And it's even worse that Vol fans are trying to push out a coach that has brought home a NC and several SEC titles as well..not to mention the winningest coach in the conference.
 
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:birgits_giggle: Sort of painted himself into a corner on that one didn't he.
 
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(NCGatorBait @ Dec 24 said:
And it's even worse that Vol fans are trying to push out a coach that has brought home a NC and several SEC titles as well..not to mention the winningest coach in the conference.
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I meant Oklavol . . . He's criticizing Florida for running Zook when a lot of Tennessee fans -like him, I think - whether right or wrong are on the verge of doing the same thing to CPF.
 
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(NCGatorBait @ Dec 24 said:
And it's even worse that Vol fans are trying to push out a coach that has brought home a NC and several SEC titles as well..not to mention the winningest coach in the conference.
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Over the last 7 years, Fulmers winning % is worse then both Bill Battle and John Majors over their last 7 years of coaching at UT. Both of those coaches were fired.

Over the last 7 years Fulmers post season record is 2-4. UT had no BCS appearances and no SEC championships during this time, and was beaten badly in 2 SEC championship games and 2 peach bowls by ACC teams.

Four years ago UT had the no. 1 recruiting class in the nation, 4 years later UT is 5-6 and doesnt qualify for a bowl.

Under Fulmer UT has not won several SEC titles, they have won 2 in 13 years. the last one being 8 years ago, when the coaching landscape in the SEC was different.

Fulmer now has losing records againt 4 different coaches/programs in the SEC: Richt at Georgia (1-4), Tubberville at Auburn (1-3), Spurrier, Saban/Miles at LSU, and Meyer at Florida.

I completey understand why most of the SEC and gator fans wants UT to keep Fulmer thats pretty obvious.
 
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(oklavol @ Dec 24 said:
Under Fulmer UT has not won several SEC titles, they have won 2 in 13 years. the last one being 8 years ago, when the coaching landscape in the SEC was different.
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I followed everything except that. What does that mean?
 
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(oklavol @ Dec 24 said:
I completey understand why most of the SEC and gator fans wants UT to keep Fulmer thats pretty obvious.
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Really? I want UGA to keep Richt..class act, good for the conference etc.. UF has completely owned him..but yet he's won more SEC titles than UF the past 5 yrs.
 
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(GAVol @ Dec 24 said:
I followed everything except that. What does that mean?
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Back in 98, Fulmer was the second best coach in the league. The only team/coach he struggled to beat was Florida under Spurrier.

Since then, most of those teams have changed coaches. Auburn, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, and South Carolina all have new and better head coaches. Now those teams Fulmer used to routinely beat, UT struggles with or loses. Fulmer is probably the 4th best coach in the conference behind Richt, Spurrier, and Tubberville where he once the second best coach in the league. It remains to be seen how Fulmer will measure up against Miles and Myers.
 
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(NCGatorBait @ Dec 24 said:
Really? I want UGA to keep Richt..class act, good for the conference etc.. UF has completely owned him..but yet he's won more SEC titles than UF the past 5 yrs.
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I want Richt to go coach in the pros. The sooner the better.
 
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alright this thread has gone to another Fulmer bashing so I'm stepping out of it...when Pearl does more than Buzz did get back with me.
 
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(oklavol @ Dec 24 said:
Back in 98, Fulmer was the second best coach in the league. The only team/coach he struggled to beat was Florida under Spurrier.

Since then, most of those teams have changed coaches. Auburn, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, and South Carolina all have new and better head coaches. Now those teams Fulmer used to routinely beat, UT struggles with or loses. Fulmer is probably the 4th best coach in the conference behind Richt, Spurrier, and Tubberville where he once the second best coach in the league. It remains to be seen how Fulmer will measure up against Miles and Myers.
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Not so sure I can go along with that. There have always been good coaches in the SEC.
 
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(oklavol @ Dec 23 said:
Pearl is a phenomenal coach and everybody on this board I've seen love the guy, so whats the point of starting a thread like this?

If the Fulmer apologists had their way, Buzz would probably still be here, since they love mediocrity and underachieving. Pearl is like the direct opposite of Fulmer. His team overachieves, and Pearl blames himself when UT loses instead of his assistants or a few plays that didnt go his teams way.

Does nobody remember what Pearl did last year with his team in the tournament? And now taking UT a team that finished last in the SEC last year and was expected to be even worse this year, they go out and beat a top 10 team. Pearl is a phenomenal coach.

If you dont believe UT's players are underachieving or underdeveloped under Fulmer read this:

http://tennessee.scout.com/2/481947.html
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Your wrong on so many levels. I do think Buzz should have been fired. And I don't care what you say, 2 SEC championships and a National Championship is not underachieving. We are almost always in the hunt for a SEC and national championship. And If memory seves me CPF did and does take responsibility.
And I started this thread with sarcasm. I do think CBP is great. But the way some bale on coaches who knows.
 
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(NCGatorBait @ Dec 24 said:
alright this thread has gone to another Fulmer bashing so I'm stepping out of it...when Pearl does more than Buzz did get back with me.
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NCGB, there are some fans who no matter what want to bust their coach. It happens at all schools. I too am from Oklahoma (my family still lives there and I am headed there shortly) and some there are ready to get rid of Stoops. The same story different color. Without his brother he can't do it, yadda yadda yadda.
 
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(VolBeef88 @ Dec 24 said:
And I don't care what you say, 2 SEC championships and a National Championship is not underachieving. We are almost always in the hunt for a SEC and national championship.
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We've played in 2 BCS games in 13 years, the last one being 8 years ago for the NC. That is not always in the hunt.
 
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(JasonCajun @ Dec 23 said:
Yeah, and he didn't inherit a top ten program like PF either.

But you're right, Bruce Pearl hasn't loss to Vanderbilt yet. PF has.
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You need to go back and check and see just how good we were doing and then how good we finished that year he took over. I will lay any amount of money you want that BB team will lose to Vandy before our football team does again.
 
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Question for Buzz's cousin NCGATORBRO. Has Buzz won any national titles at any level he has coached?

BTW make sure and spin your lame response to this question with another excuse for Peterson.

LMAO

NCGATORBRO VOTES BUZZ FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

LMAO

PS. Thank God that NCGATORBRO isn't in charge of hiring TN's mens basketball coach.
 
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(GAVol @ Dec 24 said:
I meant Oklavol . . . He's criticizing Florida for running Zook when a lot of Tennessee fans -like him, I think - whether right or wrong are on the verge of doing the same thing to CPF.
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UT keeps football coaches around longer then anyone else in this conference. UT has had 2 coaches the last 25 years, the gators have had 3 coaches in the last 7 years. All I try to do is point out Fulmer is not this great coach that most of the people on this board make him out to be. He's a middle of the road coach in the SEC, about 4th or 5th best. He's certainly the most overpaid coach in the SEC.

It amazes me after a 5-6 year, where the team is universally recognized as the biggest disappointment in division I, that some people dont think Fulmer should be criticized. The criticism is what drove the changes we've seen this year in the assistants, does anyone think those changes weren't needed?

Look at the list of teams that have changed coaches in the conference in the last 6 or so years, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, and LSU. Every single one of those programs are better off now since they changed coaches. Every one of them.
 
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(VolBeef88 @ Dec 24 said:
NCGB, there are some fans who no matter what want to bust their coach. It happens at all schools. I too am from Oklahoma (my family still lives there and I am headed there shortly) and some there are ready to get rid of Stoops. The same story different color. Without his brother he can't do it, yadda yadda yadda.
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Your so full of it. There is nobody, and I mean nobody who wants to get rid of Stoops.
 
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