Oklahoma hospital shooting

[AshG]

You can't be serious.

https://academic.oup.com/painmedicine/article-pdf/1/2/140/5143048/1-2-140.pdf

 

[OHvol40]

how to prove without a doubt that you have no concept of the 2A

And that you have no idea about freedom.

 

[hog88]

And that you have no idea about freedom.

I may not be a smart man but I know what freedom isn’t. And it ain’t being told what I cannot do or have.

 

[StarRaider]

And that you have no idea about freedom.

lol that is rich from a lazy nurse who threatened to put someone to sleep...

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

UPDATE: Multiple people shot at Graceland Cemetery; Ascension All Saints Hospital on lockdown

 

[OHvol40]

I may not be a smart man but I know what freedom isn’t. And it ain’t being told what I cannot do or have.

Like the ability to teach in the manner you see fit (as per my pervious example)? Correct. Many here prefer selective freedom, only the freedoms they aspire to possess rather than true freedom for all.

 

[AshG]

Liberty without responsibility is mere adolescence.

For me to keep a gun in my house (grrr, wife), my responsibility becomes its safe storage, care, training, and significant education of my children in how to use and treat it with respect.

Being part of a community of gun owners and enthusiasts is making sure that the community members also treat their firearms with care and respect.

Freedom without responsibility is like a coin with one side; it just doesn't exist.

 

[OHvol40]

lol that is rich from a lazy nurse who threatened to put someone to sleep...

I think you’re about 12 years old… may be wrong though. If I am, I’ll be shocked.

 

[Rickyvol77]

He was ambulatory enough to go out and buy two guns and get himself to the hospital to kill four people.

Always excuses by some

 

[StarRaider]

I think you’re about 12 years old… may be wrong though. If I am, I’ll be shocked.

Good one nurse noobie. Apparently you suck at math too. Leave the BOR discussion to the ones that understand the document... here is a simple test for you - what BOR amendment covers school curricula?

 

[OHvol40]

Good one nurse. now go clean up the glidescope.

Got anything new? That one is worn out. Why don’t you let everyone know what you’re so proud to do for a living?

 

[Vol423]

https://academic.oup.com/painmedicine/article-pdf/1/2/140/5143048/1-2-140.pdf

So what? You can get liberal doctors and scientists to say absolutely anything you want. It's simply a matter of payment.

 

[OHvol40]

So what? You can get liberal doctors and scientists to say absolutely anything you want. It's simply a matter of payment.

You don’t have to pay anyone to tell you that severe, chronic pain makes people irrational. Go ask anyone who sees it on a regular basis.

 

[AshG]

So what? You can get liberal doctors and scientists to say absolutely anything you want. It's simply a matter of payment.

Ok. I would enjoy you pulling the research apart, then. Show me your ability to dissect and discern. I look forward to an actual, effort-driven response.

 

[StarRaider]

UPDATE: Multiple people shot at Graceland Cemetery; Ascension All Saints Hospital on lockdown

countdown to nurse noobie starting another stupid thread is 5 4 3 2

 

[AshG]

countdown to nurse noobie starting another stupid thread is 5 4 3 2

And what would make the thread stupid?

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

And what would make the thread stupid?

Shootings and mass killings have sadly became normalized in this country. Everyone is desensitized to it.

 

[hog88]

Like the ability to teach in the manner you see fit (as per my pervious example)? Correct. Many here prefer selective freedom, only the freedoms they aspire to possess rather than true freedom for all.

Are you allowed to do your job “as you see fit”?

 

[MemphisVol77]

Putting myself in a teacher’s shoes, for instance, I’m free to carry a gun into a school but I’m not free to choose the books for my classroom or tell my students who I’m married to. Is that the kind of freedom we’re talking about?

We'd really appreciate it if you'd treat disclosure about your firearm to an absolute minimum with the students.

Outside of the JROTC (if available) program, a child should form their weapon and ammo preferences separate from the classroom.

My nephew understands the superior reliability and stopping power of revolvers just fine. My niece doesn't have the wrist strength for a revolver.
I'm raising hell at the PTA if a teacher confuses either of them.

On a somewhat serious note though, Do teachers not just hand out or recommended reading lists anymore?
I ended up reading books by Kurt Vonnegut, Charles Bukowski, Joseph Campbell, Herman Hesse and a few others that weren't part of any class curriculum, from teacher recommendations.....

My dad rolled his eyes at me when he saw me reading Animal Farm for extra credit (because he knew he'd end up hearing my profound philosophical musings), but he didn't begrudge the supplemental curriculum. Had a teacher tried to supplant my Civics curriculum with Animal Farm, he would have raised hell though.

 

[OHvol40]

Are you allowed to do your job “as you see fit”?

I’m allowed to do my job as I was trained to do it. Then again, my job is more straight-forward than a teacher’s, with only small variations in practiced technique.

 

[hog88]

I’m allowed to do my job as I was trained to do it. Then again, my job is more straight-forward than a teacher’s, with only small variations in practiced technique.

So teachers shouldn’t have to follow established curriculum and procedures?

 

[OHvol40]

We'd really appreciate it if you'd treat disclosure about your firearm to an absolute minimum with the students.

Outside of the JROTC (if available) program, a child should form their weapon and ammo preferences separate from the classroom.

My nephew understands the superior reliability and stopping power of revolvers just fine. My niece doesn't have the wrist strength for a revolver.
I'm raising hell at the PTA if a teacher confuses either of them.

On a somewhat serious note though, Do teachers not just hand out or recommended reading lists anymore?
I ended up reading books by Kurt Vonnegut, Charles Bukowski, Joseph Campbell, Herman Hesse and a few others that weren't part of any class curriculum, from teacher recommendations.....

My dad rolled his eyes at me when he saw me reading Animal Farm for extra credit (because he knew he'd end up hearing my profound philosophical musings), but he didn't begrudge the supplemental curriculum. Had a teacher tried to supplant my Civics curriculum with Animal Farm, he would have raised hell though.

I wouldn’t expect your civics teacher to do that, because, well, it’s nonsense . We get the “slippery slope” argument from 2A absolutist nuts on here all the time, so why don’t they apply the same logic to books? I’ll give you two guesses, but I bet you’ll only need one.

 

[OHvol40]

So teachers shouldn’t have to follow established curriculum and procedures?

If you’re not going to grant a teacher creative license to instruct the way they see fit then why not just have every single student learn the exact same curriculum, nationwide (or statewide) online across the board? It would be much more efficient, and certainly more cost effective… but would you get the same results? Hmmmm

 

[AshG]

If you’re not going to grant a teacher creative license to instruct the way they see fit then why not just have every single student learn the exact same curriculum, nationwide (or statewide) online across the board? It would be much more efficient, and certainly more cost effective… but would you get the same results? Hmmmm

That sounds like Common Core to me. That'd be a no.

 

[hog88]

If you’re not going to grant a teacher creative license to instruct the way they see fit then why not just have every single student learn the exact same curriculum, nationwide (or statewide) across the board? It would be much more efficient, and certainly more cost effective… but would you get the same results? Hmmmm

Just like your job teachers are free to use their own techniques and individuality as long as the lessons are within the parameters of the approved curriculum.