Ole Miss self imposes post season ban

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TUSKtimes said:
Kind of make you feel warm all over to know that 10essee hasn't been the reason for BAMA to have to tone it down?
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You know, as annoying as bamawriter can be, he at least pays his dues here by harassing BUBear for his blind Baylor homerism.

I'm baffled as to what value you bring to these boards, and why you've not been banned.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Kind of make you feel warm all over to know that 10essee hasn't been the reason for BAMA to have to tone it down?
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Does it make you feel warm all over that the success of 85, 18-22 year olds is what brings you happiness. Take a step back and evaluate your life a little bit. I feel bad for you. And you and your sisters kids.
 
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VolNExile said:
You know, as annoying as bamawriter can be, he at least pays his dues here by harassing BUBear for his blind Baylor homerism.

I'm baffled as to what value you bring to these boards, and why you've not been banned.
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Agreed, Tusk is always running that mouth, some people are turned on by the attention I guess..
 
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If they buried Tressel with a 5 year show cause and Tyndall with a 10 year show cause I can't imagine what they're about to try to hand Freeze.
 
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bamawriter said:
Ole Miss was handing out ridiculous amounts of money, yet UT still got Richmond

Glass houses, doofus.
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If there is clear and obvious reason to investigate then I agree. Bama's cavalier attitude is what I'm talking about. Stuff that has a paper trail and absolutely not a blink from the NCAA.
And if you are a guest in someone's house use some damn manners. I can't imagine my life would ever be so empty and that I would spend a minute on an opposing teams forum.
 
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Roustabout said:
If there is clear and obvious reason to investigate then I agree. Bama's cavalier attitude is what I'm talking about. Stuff that has a paper trail and absolutely not a blink from the NCAA.
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Oh, there's a paper trail? Wanna tell me what it shows?
 
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Seen this posted on their board;

Travis Haney, this is what it looks like when the culture is a disaster.
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Agree and just shows how ignorant of a story he wrote about us.


Back to Ole Miss, the bowl ban is laughable. I would also fire Freeze and the athletic director to try and keep what's coming from the NCAA at a minimum.
 
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CobbVol said:
Paper trail?
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There has been a couple of books and in depth articles where investigative reporters have done all the legwork. Exposes quite a bit but the trail ends at the ncaa's doorstep.
Some naively thought that with all the work being done for them, it would be investigated. But given it ended with the NCAA themselves, may as well have been asking the fox to guard the chicken coop.


Just like with a myriad of other sports and businesses in general, for that matter, people have just decided to accept that it is, what it is.
The rest of us will hate it, Bama fans will pretend it's not real. At least until the leadership changes and they're not the ones benefiting.
As soon as it's another team with ties to the head office, they'll be the first ones crying foul.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Back to Ole Miss, the bowl ban is laughable. I would also fire Freeze and the athletic director to try and keep what's coming from the NCAA at a minimum.
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I think they are going have to do this. The penalty for lack of head coach oversight is a one year suspension. Ole Miss cannot afford to let this hang over their heads, only to then lose Freeze for a year. I would be surprised if Freeze coaches this season, even if the NCAA hasn't ruled yet (which they almost certainly won't).
 
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bamawriter said:
I think they are going have to do this. The penalty for lack of head coach oversight is a one year suspension. Ole Miss cannot afford to let this hang over their heads, only to then lose Freeze for a year. I would be surprised if Freeze coaches this season, even if the NCAA hasn't ruled yet (which they almost certainly won't).
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I believe a multi-year ban is heading his way.
 
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chargervol said:
Just like with a myriad of other sports and businesses in general, for that matter, people have just decided to accept that it is, what it is.
The rest of us will hate it, Bama fans will pretend it's not real. At least until the leadership changes and they're not the ones benefiting.
As soon as it's another team with ties to the head office, they'll be the first ones crying foul.
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This conspiracy theory junk continuously ignores the fact that major scandal after major scandal has popped up and no one has gotten hit with anything significant since USC*. Bama doesn't enjoy any kind of advantage that isn't being shared by every other major program. What came to light at Miami may be the worst case of major violations ever, and what they received can't even be called a slap on the wrist.


*The obvious exception would be Penn State, but the NCAA should never have gotten involved there, and they wound up walking back all of the sanctions before they were even complete.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I believe a multi-year ban is heading his way.
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You may be right. One year suspension is the minimum if that charge sticks.

Lately, the NCAA seems more keen on hitting coaches rather than the programs. Freeze may wind up bearing the brunt of these sanctions.
 
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bamawriter said:
You may be right. One year suspension is the minimum if that charge sticks.

Lately, the NCAA seems more keen on hitting coaches rather than the programs. Freeze may wind up bearing the brunt of these sanctions.
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Which is really how it should be, given the buck stopped with him during the period the violations took place.

Any sort of punishment that gets the individuals responsible more than the program as a whole is a good thing. Limit the damage that inevitably will be inflicted on people that had nothing to do with the violations.
 
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bamawriter said:
This conspiracy theory junk continuously ignores the fact that major scandal after major scandal has popped up and no one has gotten hit with anything significant since USC*. Bama doesn't enjoy any kind of advantage that isn't being shared by every other major program. What came to light at Miami may be the worst case of major violations ever, and what they received can't even be called a slap on the wrist.


*The obvious exception would be Penn State, but the NCAA should never have gotten involved there, and they wound up walking back all of the sanctions before they were even complete.
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I agree on Miami. But Bama has not even been looked into for the recruiting trail provided.
At least they pretended interest in the other cases.

I've become okay with it over the years, it just is what it is. And if we (UT) could do it to that level, I'm sure we would.
No interest in going round and round with you, I honestly would think less of you, if you weren't defending your team.
 
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Roustabout said:
What a crock of ****. Bama had players getting cars suits and flaunting handfuls of cash and nothing. Ole Miss does the same thing and suddenly they're anathema.
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Cost-of-Attendance Stipends easily cover monthly payments for a used Dodge Charger or Challenger ("official" vehicle of the Crimson Tide), even without a trade-in.

So, it's actually easy for any player at big schools to legitimately get a fairly nice ride once they're enrolled.

Here’s what Big 12, SEC athletic departments paid in cost of attendance stipends

UT's COA Stipends are comparatively high; at one time so much more than Bama's, they increased theirs to match UT's.

Also, Alabama's Compliance Dept. documents the ownership, source(s) of funding, etc. for all student athletes' vehicles.

Just because a kid tweets a photo of himself standing by a $50k car doesn't mean it's his car. How about photos with handfuls of cash -- $100 bills or $1 bills? Kids do kid things, like posting those kinds of photos.

Or, you can believe "fake news" and "conspiracy theory" bullcrap based on such photos -- if that's what you want to believe.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Cost-of-Attendance Stipends easily cover monthly payments for a used Dodge Charger or Challenger ("official" vehicle of the Crimson Tide), even without a trade-in.

So, it's actually easy for any player at any big school to legitimately get a fairly nice ride once they're enrolled.

UT's COA Stipends are big; at one time so much more than Bama's, they increased theirs to match UT's.

Also, Alabama's Compliance Dept. documents the ownership, source(s) of funding, etc. for all student athletes' vehicles.

Just because a kid tweets a photo of himself standing by a $50k car doesn't mean it's his car. How about photos with handfuls of cash -- $100 bills or $1 bills? Kids do kid things, like posting those kinds of photos.

Or, you can believe "fake news" and "conspiracy theory" bullcrap based on such photos -- if that's what you want to believe.
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I don't mind it as much as some, at least on the conspiracy side. but what irks me on the photos is them posting those shots as recruits and saying "Great time at Tuscaloosa, they have great fan support." with them holding a couple thousand dollars. and the NCAA doesn't investigate that.
 
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LouderVol said:
I don't mind it as much as some, at least on the conspiracy side. but what irks me on the photos is them posting those shots as recruits and saying "Great time at Tuscaloosa, they have great fan support." with them holding a couple thousand dollars. and the NCAA doesn't investigate that.
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Can you produce a photo like you just described?

Maybe the NCAA does investigate those kinds of things.

Also, if the school's compliance dept. doesn't check it out and deal with it properly, they're not doing their job.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Can you produce a photo like you just described?

Maybe the NCAA does investigate those kinds of things.

Also, if the school's compliance dept. doesn't check it out and deal with it properly, they're not doing their job.
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I'm sure he's referencing the infamous Dee Liner photo; him and 2 other guys posing with what appears to be several thousand dollars in cash:

Picture of Alabama's Dee Liner posing with wad of cash posted on Internet; Twitter responds | AL.com

He's right - if it wasn't a big school, maybe that does get investigated. Alabama gets the same breaks any other big school would get. It isn't just a Bama thing.
 
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chargervol said:
I agree on Miami. But Bama has not even been looked into for the recruiting trail provided.
At least they pretended interest in the other cases.

I've become okay with it over the years, it just is what it is. And if we (UT) could do it to that level, I'm sure we would.
No interest in going round and round with you, I honestly would think less of you, if you weren't defending your team.
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How dogmatic can it get over here? It's foolish to continue to repeat yourself with the idea that Bama is getting away with cheating and you can't get beyond your emotional predisposition for orange.
 
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