One Korea ... Soon?

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ClearwaterVol said:
Probably not a post that you should jump in on. Glass houses and all.
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Be original for once. If you want to be a partisan hack, that’s your prerogative; but to blatantly talk about glass houses with your political leanings and hypocrisy is, well, ironic.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
If I'm KJU, I look at us and conclude we are not trustworthy. Look at Libya: They agree to denuke, and the end result is its leader literally gets a bayonette up his ass. Thanks Obama. Look at Iran: They agree to a nuke deal, and Trump reneges even though they are in full compliance. Blame it on our power structure, blame it on our short term vision, blame it on self interest over long term relationships, whatever.

We're not a good pact partner these days.
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this may just be me personally but I am fine not being good partners with Libya, Iran, and NK.

Thankfully we are such good partners with Ukraine it will make up for the rest, oh wait. (also another denuke agreement that went to crap, but it was about 30years for it to hit the crapper)
 
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Whether you support or loathe Trump, this is very disappointing. Hopefully NK comes to their senses (would be the first time) and comes back to the table.
 
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LouderVol said:
this may just be me personally but I am fine not being good partners with Libya, Iran, and NK.

Thankfully we are such good partners with Ukraine it will make up for the rest, oh wait. (also another denuke agreement that went to crap, but it was about 30years for it to hit the crapper)
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In the case of Iran, our partners include our European "allies". I use quotes because Trump isn't treating them as such. Abandoning our commitments to them over a pact where Iran didn't violate the terms certainly raises questions in those countries about our reliability. Due to our political structure, we swing wildly from globalist to "America first" isolationist on a dime. Say what you want about Russia and China... their stability, consistency and commitment to one wavering goal put us to shame.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
In the case of Iran, our partners include our European "allies". I use quotes because Trump isn't treating them as such. Abandoning our commitments to them over a pact where Iran didn't violate the terms certainly raises questions in those countries about our reliability. Due to our political structure, we swing wildly from globalist to "America first" isolationist on a dime. Say what you want about Russia and China... their stability, consistency and commitment to one wavering goal put us to shame.
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yeah, its a lot easier to stay on point when you have a dictator running the country. Here in America we appreciate that no one side/person has all the answers. sure its a problem with foreign relations but its always been that way.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
In the case of Iran, our partners include our European "allies". I use quotes because Trump isn't treating them as such. Abandoning our commitments to them over a pact where Iran didn't violate the terms certainly raises questions in those countries about our reliability. Due to our political structure, we swing wildly from globalist to "America first" isolationist on a dime. Say what you want about Russia and China... their stability, consistency and commitment to one wavering goal put us to shame.
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and actually Russia broke the same treaty we did with Ukraine.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
In the case of Iran, our partners include our European "allies". I use quotes because Trump isn't treating them as such. Abandoning our commitments to them over a pact where Iran didn't violate the terms certainly raises questions in those countries about our reliability. Due to our political structure, we swing wildly from globalist to "America first" isolationist on a dime. Say what you want about Russia and China... their stability, consistency and commitment to one wavering goal put us to shame.
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Its a good treaty from their viewpoint. They don't have to fly in cash to the mulas, get to trade with Iran immediately and if Iran gets a bomb down the road the USA will handle the situation.:rock:
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
In the case of Iran, our partners include our European "allies". I use quotes because Trump isn't treating them as such. Abandoning our commitments to them over a pact where Iran didn't violate the terms certainly raises questions in those countries about our reliability. Due to our political structure, we swing wildly from globalist to "America first" isolationist on a dime. Say what you want about Russia and China... their stability, consistency and commitment to one wavering goal put us to shame.
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Let me know when these "allies" treat us as such.
 
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Ole Smokie Eyes is already doing damage control saying "this is something we fully expected from NK."
"NK was incensed about recent comments by Trump's top security adviser, John Bolton, and other U.S. officials who have said the North should follow the "Libyan model" of nuclear disarmament." LOL Yeah, that really worked out well for Gaddafi. Good move John.
 
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TennTom said:
Ole Smokie Eyes is already doing damage control saying "this is something we fully expected from NK."
"NK was incensed about recent comments by Trump's top security adviser, John Bolton, and other U.S. officials who have said the North should follow the "Libyan model" of nuclear disarmament." LOL Yeah, that really worked out well for Gaddafi. Good move John.
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dude, we have been saying in this thread that NK likes to play around with this stuff. if we idiots in the VN PF can figure it out, its a safe bet the people in DC know it.
 
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LouderVol said:
dude, we have been saying in this thread that NK likes to play around with this stuff. if we idiots in the VN PF can figure it out, its a safe bet the people in DC know it.
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Pfft....Half of you dimwits were ready to hand out the Nobel Prize to him.
 
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Squints said:
Be original for once. If you want to be a partisan hack, that’s your prerogative; but to blatantly talk about glass houses with your political leanings and hypocrisy is, well, ironic.
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The post that proves my point. I was politely trying to say that you are the last person who should be calling someone stupid. Not surprised you didn't catch the implication.
 
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Out of curiosity if this does fall thru

A) what exactly have we given up?

B) we still have three released US citizens. Do we have to give them back?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Out of curiosity if this does fall thru

A) what exactly have we given up?

B) we still have three released US citizens. Do we have to give them back?
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And a historic meeting between North and South occurred

Honestly the "see I told you so" reaction by many in the press is completely absurd.
 
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The WaPo is suggesting that NK is buying time to hide their nukes. I think that makes sense. It's taking longer than they expected so they're slow down or stop the meetings altogether.
 
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