Opponent watch: Brennan Armstrong, UVA QB, has entered the portal

[NighthawkVol]

Not sure why some here have a chubby for this guy.....7 TDs 12 ints... Yes I get a new coach. But Elliott was a pretty good OC. 21 was a fluke for BA.. His comp % went back down to similar to 2020..... obviously he struggle mightly in his 5th year of college football....yet Milton overthrows a few passes yet throws no ints and y'all exect him to be perfect a complete everypass...amazing

Tony Elliott went from being Clemson's OC in 2021 to being Virginia's Head Coach in 2022. The top graphic is DJ Uiagaleli's stats in 2021 and 2022. The bottom graphic is Brennan Armstrong's stats in 2021 and 2022. Notice a pattern?

The problem was the offense.

 

[whodeycin85]

Tony Elliott went from being Clemson's OC in 2021 to being Virginia's Head Coach in 2022. The top graphic is DJ Uiagaleli's stats in 2021 and 2022. The bottom graphic is Brennan Armstrong's stats in 2021 and 2022. Notice a pattern?

The problem was the offense.

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Wasn't DJ a first year starter as a true sophmore? BA was a 4 year SR... Who started an entire season before..m

 

[WillisWG]

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[rocytop2624]

I can't see us pursuing a QB. We have far bigger needs.

2 QB's got hurt and put out for the year this year. And with that it's a area of need.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Wasn't DJ a first year starter as a true sophmore? BA was a 4 year SR... Who started an entire season before..m

DJ started a couple of games the year before when Lawrence was hurt. But 2021 was the first year he started full time and he really struggled. Armstrong became a star in 2021, only to fall back down to Earth in 2022 after the coaching change.

 

[orangebloodgmc]

I don’t understand the logic going into the season with 3 unproven quarterbacks

ALL Qbs are unproven, before they become proven. Milton is more experienced than most backups.

 

[Titan&Volfan4life]

In CJH I Trust!!!

VFL...GBO!!!

 

[whodeycin85]

DJ started a couple of games the year before when Lawrence was hurt. But 2021 was the first year he started full time and he really struggled. Armstrong became a star in 2021, only to fall back down to Earth in 2022 after the coaching change.

Yea...I just don't think this guy is a game changer.....I'd rather stick with Milton...... Or see what the other can do if Milton gets hurt.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Yea...I just don't think this guy is a game changer.....I'd rather stick with Milton...... Or see what the other can do if Milton gets hurt.

4500 yards and 31 TDs in one season, along with being a legit running threat isn’t a game changer? Well. Okay.

 

[VolGirl81]

Armstrong could work well at UT with good coaching. Elliott and his OC were not a good fit for him at all. Armstrong is also a tad older like Hooker, he’s been at UVA since 2018. I can see him as a very good opportunity for us.

 

[whodeycin85]

4500 yards and 31 TDs in one season, along with being a legit running threat isn’t a game changer? Well. Okay.

He's a volume passer.. Not efficient... Yes great stats.... But we don't throw 45 to 50 times a game..... Plus he was sacked 30 and 34 times the last 2 years.... That alot of sacks.... When he dropped back less he was sacked more..... He like a volume shooter in basketball...

 

[Seattle Hillbilly]

This guy would “never” fit in Heupel’s O.

Heupel values safety. Protect the ball, protect your possession. Keep your possessions = scores, give away possessions and that’s less chances for you to score and more for the opponent to score.

This kid had 1 good year 31 td’s with 10 int’s, still with too many int’s for Heupel’s system…….and in 3 other seasons he had 26 TD’s with 25 int’s.

Heupel might bring someone in; however it will be someone who values ball security.

For reference his QB’s TD’s and int’s
2018 - 29 & 7 (even here not where he would like but his starter went down)
2019 - 36 & 8
2020 - 32 & 4
2021 - 33 & 3
2022 - 35 & 3

Nice work Jo.

 

[orange parmejohn]

We shouldn't focus on shoring up and fortifying our defense? But go QB hunting despite having a stable of, an overabundance as it were?
It's funny how you ignored the primary focus on my post and went straight after Milton. But it's OK, you're not alone in committing that gaff. I've been known to jump on a laser-brained single-minded thing or two at the expense of what's really being said. The peril and pitfall of being only human, I suppose.

Do you always make up a long and entirely inaccurate narrative to accuse people of who disagree with you? In your world, does taking a transfer QB mean the team has to forfeit any defensive players? SMH

 

[JoeMiltonsAgent]

Armstrong has a far better resume than Hooker when he transferred.

This guy is an absolute take if the interest in mutual between player and school.

 

[LittleVol]

It's like people are scared for Joe Milton to have to win another QB battle.
What are you all worried about??

 

[firedog28]

The last National Championship we won was with a QB who could make big plays with his legs(Tee Martin) and above average passer! He completed 26 passes in a row at So. Carolina. Hooker was close to being like that than anyone has since then. I think Hooker was a better passer than Tee but Tee was a better runner. I'm saying this to point out my feeling that you need a run pass guy to win big, especially in CJH offense. Whom ever we get needs to be able to be able to do those things well or we will stagnate and not progress. QB's determine the future,along with how much better the defense can become !

 

[NighthawkVol]

He's a volume passer.. Not efficient... Yes great stats.... But we don't throw 45 to 50 times a game..... Plus he was sacked 30 and 34 times the last 2 years.... That alot of sacks.... When he dropped back less he was sacked more..... He like a volume shooter in basketball...

He completed 65% and averaged 8.9 yards per attempt in 2021 on 500 attempts.

Bryce Young, who won the Heisman in 2021, completed 67% and averaged 8.9 yards per attempt on 547 attempts.

So I guess Young wasn't efficient, either. Bottom line: the dude can make the throws to be very successful in this offense.

 

[sami]

I have never seen this kid play, but from this highlight clip he appears to be a QB that might thrive in Heupel's offense.

 

[NighthawkVol]

The last National Championship we won was with a QB who could make big plays with his legs(Tee Martin) and above average passer! He completed 26 passes in a row at So. Carolina. Hooker was close to being like that than anyone has since then. I think Hooker was a better passer than Tee but Tee was a better runner. I'm saying this to point out my feeling that you need a run pass guy to win big, especially in CJH offense. Whom ever we get needs to be able to be able to do those things well or we will stagnate and not progress. QB's determine the future,along with how much better the defense can become !View attachment 519928

In today's game, you have to have a QB who can do both well.

 

[hUTch2002]

Just so we're clear, I wasn't starting this thread to say we should pursue him, just pointing out that he won't be playing against us.

I have no interest in us taking the kid. We have our QB's, IMO.

@Freak can you get this moved back to the football forum? This wasn't about recruiting.

I was just reading down the thread and wondering how long it would take someone to pick up on your point.

 

[JoAllan]

Every coach in America values ball security. We have no idea what how the coaching staff may evaluate a transfer, or what they feel they may be able to help a kid improve on.

Some value arm strength, awareness, mobility, all kinds of things way over simply “how many int’s they have thrown” Heupel does not. Not because of the int’s……it’s about the QB and what type they may be. What type of decisions they make in game.

Everyone is free to disagree with me. However I do not believe that kid fits this system.

 

[UTFanHades]

UVA is going to be a worse team than any SEC opponent we face next year. Dodged a lethal bullet when that guy turned us down.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

I hope Milton gets his chance. He's paid his dues and did everything he could do as a team mate. He's gotta step it up and be a leader.

Not sure how it will end up, but sometimes it just don't work out.

He will be getting his chance around New Year's Day. I hope he makes the most of it.

 

[JoAllan]

While I don’t disagree with you regarding Heupel valuing ball security, I think we also can assume most QBs end up with fewer INTs in his system, where he schemes receivers wide open all day and there just aren’t as many times you’re throwing into tight coverage. For reference, I think Hendon’s numbers at VT were a far cry from what he ended up with here.

No doubt, However Heupel didn’t bring him in. And Hooker wasn’t some daring gunslinger type taking chances either. 13-2 then 9-5 in his year he lost the job forever.

It’s not just about the interceptions…….heck it’s mostly not about that. Ball security is mostly about “knowledge.” Knowing the system, knowing what you can and can’t do, knowing when to just chuck it away or run it. Some guys simply just try to do too much when there’s nothing there. Heupel will take a guy that values ball security (thus values the possession) over a guy with possible more talent but is reckless with the ball, or reckless because he “thinks” he can get it there, or he thinks he can beat the safety, or whatever.

My opinion only……and I really don’t know crap so mine don’t mean much.

 

[JoAllan]

Nice work Jo.

thanks

I think lost of folks believe I’m talking solely about interceptions.

I’m not. Interceptions are the worst product of what I’m talking about. Heupel values each possession. The number of possessions a team has can determine who wins.

Heupel wants QB’s who are smart with the ball. Fast when it’s there, but take your time when it’s not. Let it open don’t just chuck it in a tight window. Sacks better than int’s, throw aways are even better, take off running even better.

Decision making is key, not just throwing it all over the place because you think you can. The “gunslinger” taking chances type is not what Heupel’s system is about.

How many times we seen Hooker stand there, waiting, looking…….I’ve been like “just throw the ball” or “throw the ball away.”…….however he knows exactly what he’s doing. Now it doesn’t always work. As he’s been sacked doing it; however he was giving his play as much chance as possible without losing the possession at the spot. The last throw of the Bama game comes to mind. He wait until the very last moment he could……and just for that moment it came open.