Oregon is a better football team than Bubba

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GAVol said:
I've got no idea who wins. The styles are so polar opposite and dominant.
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You know--it's kind of like the Baseball axiom....Good Pitching BEATS good hitting EVERY TIME.....and, did we not learn anything from Bama's beat-down of ND last year?? How's Oregon gonna stop Bama's running attack...

BAMA has a better D--equal speed at skill positions...experience and depth to play 4 quarters with Oregon....and better, more experienced coaching.

Also, Bama's LBs and DBs have the speed to keep Oregon's high speed perimeter attack contained...

Oregon would probably have some early success against Bama--but the Bammers would steamroll them in the 2nd half....
 
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BruiserVol said:
I made a comment on that Neal run during the game. I heard he was one of the fastest players on the team. He had green in front of him and would've been a td because all the defenders were behind and he got ran down fast an it looked too easy for him to get caught for as fast as I heard he is.
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Hopefully, Mr. Hurd takes that ball to the house next year.....GO VOLS! :salute:
 
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Bama's so called epic defense has played against 1 good offense all year and that was Manziel and Texas A&M. You will note that they got rocked in that game and I am not talking a little either. The only reason why Bama won that game was because the Aggie defense sucks.

Oregon's defense does not suck at all and they have better skill players than A&M with maybe as dangerous a QB in Mariotta. The only chance Bama would have in that game in my opinion would be to cripple Mariotta in the 1st quarter because if they don't, Oregon will beat them.

Florida State is also in this category. Their defense is vicious and they have an offense that puts up stupid numbers. That isn't even bringing up the fact that the young kid who is playing for the Noles is a beast of a QB in the pocket or running.

Bama better hope that they both lose and that they get to play Ohio State because I don't think they will beat the Ducks or the Seminoles on a neutral field.
 
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MikeVol44 said:
You know--it's kind of like the Baseball axiom....Good Pitching BEATS good hitting EVERY TIME.....and, did we not learn anything from Bama's beat-down of ND last year?? How's Oregon gonna stop Bama's running attack...

BAMA has a better D--equal speed at skill positions...experience and depth to play 4 quarters with Oregon....and better, more experienced coaching.

Also, Bama's LBs and DBs have the speed to keep Oregon's high speed perimeter attack contained...

Oregon would probably have some early success against Bama--but the Bammers would steamroll them in the 2nd half....
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Saban will clearly have his boys come to play. But if you're that confident, you're biased or just not very bright.

Oregon makes very nice halftime adjustments (you may recall from such years as 2010). I imagine a game in the 30's, and a coin flip as to who wins.
 
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TheGreenCloaca said:
Saban will clearly have his boys come to play. But if you're that confident, you're biased or just not very bright.

Oregon makes very nice halftime adjustments (you may recall from such years as 2010). I imagine a game in the 30's, and a coin flip as to who wins.
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Well now, let's see about who's bright and who's not so bright....making half-time adjustments against one of the worst UT teams coached by CDD in 2010 is hardly the same as trying to adjust to BAMA. (you make this too easy)...

Bama has ACTUALLY WON their high pressure, big ballgames--and 3 NC in the last 4 years....

All Oregon had to do was score more points on a mediocre Auburn defense to win their NC--and couldn't get it done. Oregon has also not gotten it done against other teams over the same time period--Stanford, LSU, USC, Ohio State--and struggled against big, physical teams....

Don't get me wrong--I think Oregon is VERY good. However, they have yet to demonstrate that they have the ability and DEPTH to beat a big, physical team who can match their speed for 60 minutes--and they've had ample opportunities over the same time period.

So confidence makes me not so bright. There's absolutely NOTHING in Oregon's past or present history that suggests they have the depth and physicality to go toe-to-toe with the most physical and fast SEC teams--aka LSU and Bama for 60 minutes. In fact, they've lost every time they've had that opportunity.

I'm basing my confident prediction that Bama would beat them by 10 on actual game evidence and history. Oregon's offense LOOKS sexy, sleek, and fast--until they get hit in the mouth for 60 minutes.

UCLA did that tonight to the Quacks for 30 minutes--and were only down 21-14 when they threw an INT in the 3rd QTR...BAMA doesn't turn the ball over and has the depth to punch them in the mouth for 60 minutes.

It's not bias--it's called knowledge of the game and evaluating match-ups...Bama's LBs and DBs match up VERY well with Oregon, while Oregon's DL and LBs do NOT match up well with Bama's OL and running game.

On the other hand--FSU matches up much better with BAMA--as does Stanford.

Just wanting Bama to lose because you can't stand them is not a very logical nor bright criteria for evaluating the outcome of a game that may not even happen. If history holds consistent--I would say that Oregon won't even make it into the game...

I actually expect it to be OHIO State and BAMA...
 
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BruiserVol said:
I made a comment on that Neal run during the game. I heard he was one of the fastest players on the team. He had green in front of him and would've been a td because all the defenders were behind and he got ran down fast an it looked too easy for him to get caught for as fast as I heard he is.
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Neal is not that fast. If that was Charlie Garner or Travis Stephens or some other great Tennessee back he scores easy.
 
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LSU - Oregon 2011 is a template
- Points to ponder :
- The zone read is predicated off of the decisions that the unblocked DE makes . In a 3-4 ...there is no DE ...which can and will cause calamity for the QB.
- No zone read ...no passing game ..no play action.
- Oregons D is built to play with a lead ...not stop a power running game.
- Bama has the speed to play man coverage ...and they are a very good zone cover team . ...and they are deceptive about both.
- Bamas 3 down can control the oregon interior O line..meaning LBs are roaming free and control all the gaps ..even the E gap with is the money maker for the zone teams.

Afraid Oregon would get ran over just like the last time they challenged the top of the SEC
 
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Reivax26 said:
If its Bama vs Ohio State, Tide wins by at least 20, maybe more. Ohio States strength of schedule is a damn joke.
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I agree 100%--but I don't see OSU losing, and I do envision both FSU and Oregon losing one game......However, I've been wrong before....
 
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LibertyVol said:
Neal is not that fast. If that was Charlie Garner or Travis Stephens or some other great Tennessee back he scores easy.
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Except for Travis Henry...LOL!!!

But that is exactly my point--the level of talent we have at the skill positions is just not there, but Mr. Hurd is coming.....:salute:
 
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TheEndlessEnigma said:
I still say FSU is better than Oregon but not by much. Very close between those two. Think that the FSU defense is a bit better.
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I agree....a playoff system would produce some great football games for fans this year......and generate millions of $$$ way above and beyond what the BOWLS will....:salute:
 
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Bama is a big physical team with big physical players. They do have some speed guys across their team but I don't think they have enough speed to catch those track star speedsters that Oregon brings.
 
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MikeVol44 said:
All Oregon had to do was score more points on a mediocre Auburn defense to win their NC--and couldn't get it done. Oregon has also not gotten it done against other teams over the same time period--Stanford, LSU, USC, Ohio State--and struggled against big, physical teams....

Don't get me wrong--I think Oregon is VERY good. However, they have yet to demonstrate that they have the ability and DEPTH to beat a big, physical team who can match their speed for 60 minutes--and they've had ample opportunities over the same time period.
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Please, tell me more about previous Oregon rosters.
 
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Looking back at the box score, I notice that after one quarter Oregon led UT 10-7. Looks as though the Vols were in the game.

It didn't look as if UT was still in the game after a quarter yesterday.
 
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I hope Bama loses to Auburn in their "Iron Bowl." Anything to knock Bama out of a National Championship is a good thing.

I'm okay with the NC bouncing from team to team in the SEC, but I'm not okay with it going to Bama yet again.
 
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Without a doubt Alabama is a great football team, but at the same time I think their legend may be clouding the perception of the actual product we see on the field every week. The only top level team they played all year put up 42 on that defense. Sure, they have looked great all season long beating up on lesser competition, but still, were talking V-Tech, Georgia St, Kentucky, etc...

So before we anoint them gods, lets see how it plays out:good!:
 
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knoxvol16 said:
I hope Bama loses to Auburn in their "Iron Bowl." Anything to knock Bama out of a National Championship is a good thing.

I'm okay with the NC bouncing from team to team in the SEC, but I'm not okay with it going to Bama yet again.
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You're not okay with it, yet you have no say-so and what you're "okay with" doesn't really matter.
 
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It's a contrast of styles. It's the best matchup possible for a title game. I still think Alabama would win based on the fact they'll maul Oregon up front..
 
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Also, lets not forget last year. I would put K-State or Oregon against that Notre Dame team and put money on a win. The general perception was not many people wanted to send the Irish to the natty, but they had no choice. Most people knew they were overrated based on the easy schedule. Alabama, Oregon, and K-State were ALL one loss teams. So I (keeping in mind I'm biased) put an asterisk next to that national championship game. Because it was the voters who send Alabama. The voters said out of all the one loss teams, it was Alabama who deserved to go. It was a consensus because they had won the last national championship. So really, it was self-fulfilling prophecy by the voters. Oregon beats Notre Dame if they had been selected, then its a different conversation this year.

Edit: I was wrong. Lou Holtz said it was Notre Dame who deserved to go. So there ya go. They had ONE vote as the most deserving team.:)
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I assume you're making this assessment on this game? If you are you are dead wrong. Bamas defense is leagues above anyone Oregon will face. Oregon can score quickly but they live and die by the big play. Also Bama has SPEED on defense, unlike us.

Alabama has the perfect offense to wear Oregon down. Bamas running game is very physical and would wear Oregon out. Oregons defense would not be able to stop Bamas offense. Saban will have time to prepare for the game. Alabama wins.
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Plus, look at Bama's speed on Offense... Jones, Cooper, Drake, Yeldon etc.... Their overall team speed isn't far off Oregon's if at all. They're playing better football than anyone in the country right now. I wouldn't bet against them vs Oregon.
 
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knoxvol16 said:
I hope Bama loses to Auburn in their "Iron Bowl." Anything to knock Bama out of a National Championship is a good thing.

I'm okay with the NC bouncing from team to team in the SEC, but I'm not okay with it going to Bama yet again.
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No offense, but if the NC bounces to any SEC team other than UT it signicantly hurts our recruiting and our program. I used to be an "SEC guy" but not anymore. The only team I want to see in a NC game is Tennessee.
 
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KBVol said:
They're playing better football than anyone in the country right now. I wouldn't bet against them vs Oregon.
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Colorado State 4-4
Ole Miss 5-3
Georgia State- 0-8
Kentucky- 1-6
Arkansas 3-5
Tennessee 4-4
Total record-17-30

Exactly ONE team with a winning record. So lets not get carried away:good!:
 
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