Oregon?

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I think that the "Showdowns on the field", up coming should not be over looked by my brothers and sisters, as we will still be rebuilding. They have been tuff for 10 years, lots of respect for Oregon, and we better be ready to go to work, those West Coast teams get amped up for the SEC like a Bowl Game !!!
 
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IPorange said:
I don't know why someone called Eugene the middle of nowhere... It's not like Knoxville is exactly NYC.
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Glad to get passionate fans on here. Surprised no one mentioned Onterrio Smith.

If TN has gorgeous coeds, so does Oregon and unlike UT, I would be shocked if football players who are so inclined (and we know O Smith was) cannot get kind bud on their visits.

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It is still Ken Kesey's town. I have been there. It has more Volkswagen Vans in that one town than anywhere I have been in my life and I have followed Widespread Panic and Phish for a bit.

It seems like if mom and dad come on the recruiting trip it will not be a cultural fit for lots of southern boys whose parents expect them to be at church and not sitting in a tree crying.

I have heard great things about the noise level at the stadium and for Oregon fans to have found my post on a TN recruiting message board shows that there is something to the rabid nature.

Our other Oregon TN connection (aside from O Smith) is Jerry Green who coached at both places. Also NIKE may be buying Selby for Oregon through Worldwide Wes so that could be another connection.

Knoxville is not for everyone, but both places actually have nice access to beautiful hiking and kayaking, I just cannot imagine that is a big selling point for most players.
 
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oregon has an unbelievable amount of big recruits that fail to qualify every year which tells me they offer a lot of guys other people don't think will qualify and therefore don't go hard after. they do pull the occasional 5 star guy like stewart, but their classes tend to be top heavy and as i said a lot of these guys don't qualify. i'd argue their talent level is consistantly behind usc (obviously), cal, and ucla. no chance they sniff a nc in my lifetime. i'd be shocked if they won more than 8 games this year OR finished in front of cal, sc, stanford, or ucla in recruiting.
 
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droski said:
speaking from someone who has been both places. . . knoxville is a much more cosmopolitan city.
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I'll defer to you. I've been to both and don't remember Eugene being anything special, but then I figured I was biased towards Knoxville.

I figured I might get called on the fact that over half of the United States population lives within an 12 hour drive of Knoxville, but then that's kind of an obscure factoid. A good one, though.
 
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vol_fan21 said:
I'm around high school kids all the time, helping out at practice. You can ask any kid out there if they could pick any school to play for, half would say Oregon because of the uniforms. I've heard people say that before, but never believed it until the kids told me themselves. I'm not saying that Oregon coaches don't recruit well, but believe it or not, the uniforms make a difference.
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I admit, that is definitely hard to believe. I understand they have awesome facilities, but their uniforms are absolutely hideous.
 
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tennisguy said:
I admit, that is definitely hard to believe. I understand they have awesome facilities, but their uniforms are absolutely hideous.
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the kids definetly seem to like the uniforms. but kick ass facilities and uniforms only takes you so far. being in the middle of nowhere with no local talent is too much of a hurdle for oregon to be a national power. no way are they going to be able to get enough players away from cal, ucla, or sc to compete at that level. they just don't have those schools recruting bases. best case is they continue to win 7-10 games a year with the occasional once in a decade talent like dixon giving them a very outside national title shot.
 
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I see droski is still spewing the usual garbage.

Oregon's talent is obviously, like everybody else in the conference, trailing USC. But to make the claim that it's consistently behind any of the other teams is absurd.

The non-qualifiers were mostly the result of a combination of bad recruiting practices (and the coach principally responsible for that is no longer on staff) and stronger state mandated requirements. Everybody is going to make it into school from our last class.

And re: uniforms... It's not so much imo that kids like the uniforms themselves (although that was the case for Legarrette Blount) as much as it is that they are excited about the possibility of helping in the design of the next set. (Nike works with our players on the uniform designs collaboratively.)
 
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BellottiBold said:
I see droski is still spewing the usual garbage.

Oregon's talent is obviously, like everybody else in the conference, trailing USC. But to make the claim that it's consistently behind any of the other teams is absurd.

The non-qualifiers were mostly the result of a combination of bad recruiting practices (and the coach principally responsible for that is no longer on staff) and stronger state mandated requirements. Everybody is going to make it into school from our last class.

And re: uniforms... It's not so much imo that kids like the uniforms themselves (although that was the case for Legarrette Blount) as much as it is that they are excited about the possibility of helping in the design of the next set. (Nike works with our players on the uniform designs collaboratively.)
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Your missing the point that the schools he mentioned are all in cities with more people than the entire northwest.
 
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I like droski's garbage. He's like that guy who throws stuff out that he doesn't want but are still completely useful. Like his old couch, or coffee table. You just cruise by his nice big house and help yourself to whatever he's set out by the dumpster. I hope he continues to throw out more garbage in the future.
 
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Oregon is a good school, with obviously great connections with NIKE and the state of Oregon is beautiful.

Many people see this UT program through Orange colored glasses, but right now Oregon is a better program than Tennessee. I mean you take USC out of the PAC 10 and Oregon has numerous Pac 10 championships in the last 10 years. + had that QB not got hurt a few years ago they would have been in the NC game.

We play Oregon in a few years and I HIGHLY recommend anyone who can, go to that game in Oregon. You will leave impressed
 
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I_Hate_the_BCS said:
Oregon is a good school, with obviously great connections with NIKE and the state of Oregon is beautiful.

Many people see this UT program through Orange colored glasses, but right now Oregon is a better program than Tennessee. I mean you take USC out of the PAC 10 and Oregon has numerous Pac 10 championships in the last 10 years. + had that QB not got hurt a few years ago they would have been in the NC game.

We play Oregon in a few years and I HIGHLY recommend anyone who can, go to that game in Oregon. You will leave impressed
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Potential alone puts UT above Oregon.
 
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BellottiBold said:
I see droski is still spewing the usual garbage.

Oregon's talent is obviously, like everybody else in the conference, trailing USC. But to make the claim that it's consistently behind any of the other teams is absurd.

The non-qualifiers were mostly the result of a combination of bad recruiting practices (and the coach principally responsible for that is no longer on staff) and stronger state mandated requirements. Everybody is going to make it into school from our last class.

And re: uniforms... It's not so much imo that kids like the uniforms themselves (although that was the case for Legarrette Blount) as much as it is that they are excited about the possibility of helping in the design of the next set. (Nike works with our players on the uniform designs collaboratively.)
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wait so a) you admit they are around 22nd-25th in teh country in recruiting and b) that you have a lot of non qualifiers. now if cal and ucla are already regurally higher than that and don't have non qualifiers (which they dont) doesn't it make sense that your talent level would be less? and you do have a major non qualifier in this years class. i'll look for the link
 
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I_Hate_the_BCS said:
Oregon is a good school, with obviously great connections with NIKE and the state of Oregon is beautiful.

Many people see this UT program through Orange colored glasses, but right now Oregon is a better program than Tennessee. I mean you take USC out of the PAC 10 and Oregon has numerous Pac 10 championships in the last 10 years. + had that QB not got hurt a few years ago they would have been in the NC game.

We play Oregon in a few years and I HIGHLY recommend anyone who can, go to that game in Oregon. You will leave impressed
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whaaaa? take out sc and cal wins the pac-10 easily in 04 and 06 and oregon wins it when exactly? last year? maybe?

as for the dixon year let's not forget approx 15 teams in front of them lost to allow that opportunity. that team couldn't beat a 7-5 cal team at home.

comparing a team with tenn tradition to oregon is ridiculous. lets not also forget that neyland is twice the size of that overrated oregon stadium. if autzen is such a great homefield advantage how come they are barely over 500 at home in the lsat 5 years? let's not also forget that before the late 90s they drew 8k a game.
 
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droski said:
wait so a) you admit they are around 22nd-25th in teh country in recruiting and b) that you have a lot of non qualifiers. now if cal and ucla are already regurally higher than that and don't have non qualifiers (which they dont) doesn't it make sense that your talent level would be less? and you do have a major non qualifier in this years class. i'll look for the link
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Cal and UCLA over the past 5-10 years have NOT been "regularly higher." And I hope you aren't talking about Cliff Harris - who is on his way right now.

Anyhow, you can live in your little fantasy land where we have no relevance now, and will continue to have no relevance in the future, that's fine. This is the TN board, and we can save our bs'ing for somewhere like educk... although you're probably still banned there, huh?
 
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BellottiBold said:
Cal and UCLA over the past 5-10 years have NOT been "regularly higher." And I hope you aren't talking about Cliff Harris - who is on his way right now.
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maybe not the last 10 years, but absolutely the last 5 years. cal's average star rating has been higher (sometimes significantly higher) 4 out of the last 5 years.
 
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BellottiBold said:
Anyhow, you can live in your little fantasy land where we have no relevance now, and will continue to have no relevance in the future, that's fine. This is the TN board, and we can save our bs'ing for somewhere like educk... although you're probably still banned there, huh?
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the only ones in a fantasy world are the ones in eugene who think a program with no recruiting base, in the middle of nowhere, which is one of the worst programs of all time, would all of sudden turn into an annual national championship contender because they have fancy uniforms and flatscreens in their locker rooms. wake me up when you win something without jeff tedford or beat his team for that matter.
 
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BellottiBold said:
Cal and UCLA over the past 5-10 years have NOT been "regularly higher." And I hope you aren't talking about Cliff Harris - who is on his way right now.

Anyhow, you can live in your little fantasy land where we have no relevance now, and will continue to have no relevance in the future, that's fine. This is the TN board, and we can save our bs'ing for somewhere like educk... although you're probably still banned there, huh?
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Bellotti I wanted to talk about pot hippies and Eugene but I got ignored...Come on man!

Jerry Green, Onterrio Smith? Josh Selby? Let the conversation commence. It seems like when a kid gets kicked out of an SEC school for blazing trees they should head to Eugene where its all good.
 
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