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All the while, Barbara Walters is sitting there thinking "I should have retired 15 years ago."
 
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It wasn't 90 year old Irish nuns that attacked the WTC. They were Muslims. Granted they were "extremist" but Muslims none the less.
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So the lesson here is this: it's ok for LG to making sweeping accusations, but nobody else had better.... unless they have a D beside their name.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Or those that say people that watch O'Reily/Hannity are mouthbreathers but those that watch Olbermann/Matthews are enlightened.
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LG did once remark that Olbermann's show presented the facts and was extremely well-researched. Of course, LG didn't say if it was Olbermann's Sunday night NFL show or his show on MSNBC, so who knows...
 
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The posts I am reading here that seem to adhere to the logic that, because the terrorists were radical Islamics means that we must fear all Muslims, is convincing me even more as to the disturbing simplemindedness of the right on this issue. The effort to boil this down to assailing a religion of a billion people based on the acts of a dozen, is just plain stupid.

Is Chritianity the enemy based on the acts of radicals in the Westboro Church who protest at the funerals of servicemen? Should we be burning Bibles and banning Baptist churches because a Baptist shoots an abortion provider?

The super right that promote this nonsense are doing it for their own self interest in promoting the fear and all they do is whip up idiots into voting or demanding action based on perpetuating ignorance. Its as disgusting as it is depressing.
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as misguided as the dolts of Westboro Baptist Church are, I don't know of a single incidence of their hijacking airplanes and flying them into skyscrapers, so right of the bat, LG, your comparison is invalid.

even if 1% of Islam is radicalized, that's still 10 million psychopaths itching to get at their 70 virgins.

Of course those of us on the right don't think that all of Islam is a threat, but we also don't see a lot of moderate Islam standing up and facing down the radicals.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The posts I am reading here that seem to adhere to the logic that, because the terrorists were radical Islamics means that we must fear all Muslims, is convincing me even more as to the disturbing simplemindedness of the right on this issue. The effort to boil this down to assailing a religion of a billion people based on the acts of a dozen, is just plain stupid.

Is Chritianity the enemy based on the acts of radicals in the Westboro Church who protest at the funerals of servicemen? Should we be burning Bibles and banning Baptist churches because a Baptist shoots an abortion provider?

The super right that promote this nonsense are doing it for their own self interest in promoting the fear and all they do is whip up idiots into voting or demanding action based on perpetuating ignorance. Its as disgusting as it is depressing.
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I bet you never miss an episode of "The View"
 
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The only two on this site that hate Muslims are gs and joevol.

U just assume all republicans hate and fear all Muslims to perpetuate your false claims that republicans are racist fear mongers.

You are the most hypocritical person of all time.


lawgator1 said:
The posts I am reading here that seem to adhere to the logic that, because the terrorists were radical Islamics means that we must fear all Muslims, is convincing me even more as to the disturbing simplemindedness of the right on this issue. The effort to boil this down to assailing a religion of a billion people based on the acts of a dozen, is just plain stupid.

Is Chritianity the enemy based on the acts of radicals in the Westboro Church who protest at the funerals of servicemen? Should we be burning Bibles and banning Baptist churches because a Baptist shoots an abortion provider?

The super right that promote this nonsense are doing it for their own self interest in promoting the fear and all they do is whip up idiots into voting or demanding action based on perpetuating ignorance. Its as disgusting as it is depressing.
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Anybody that doesn't think Islam is the problem is sadly mistaken.

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What the World Thinks in 2002: Introduction and Summary - Pew Research Center for the People & the Press

These numbers are absolutely revolting. Everyone on here knows how I feel about religion, all religion. However, it must be understood that Islam provides the masses with a unique set of beliefs that can't be just laughed away.

Consider 3 things about the above numbers. First, if you include all the respondents that couldn't find it reasonable to say suicide bombing is Never justified (including the rarely, sometimes, and often responses into the same category), then we are looking at roughly 250 million avowed supporters of terrorism in the world.

Second, this is from a Pew Research Poll titled "What the World Thinks in 2002". This was conducted less than a year after 9/11. So, it is a pretty good assumption that this is representative of the general consensus of the muslim population at the time...not just the "fanatics".

Third, look at the poll again. What countries aren't represented there? Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. It is safe to say that with how apalling these numbers are, they are probably pretty conservative.

This is an area where I part with the liberals. Let's not be politically correct here. A spade is a spade. I have good friends that are muslim. They are nice guys and good to hang out with. But their theology, at its core, is far from peaceful. Luckily, they are progressive enough to disregard the bloody parts. But even they can say they understand, on some level given the theology, where the fanatics are coming from.

It is what it is. We need to stop deluding ourselves of this fact.

...oh yeah, and we need to stop watching some of the sewage that calls itself television.
 
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rjd970 said:
Anybody that doesn't think Islam is the problem is sadly mistaken.

Islam.jpg


What the World Thinks in 2002: Introduction and Summary - Pew Research Center for the People & the Press

These numbers are absolutely revolting. Everyone on here knows how I feel about religion, all religion. However, it must be understood that Islam provides the masses with a unique set of beliefs that can't be just laughed away.

Consider 3 things about the above numbers. First, if you include all the respondents that couldn't find it reasonable to say suicide bombing is Never justified (including the rarely, sometimes, and often responses into the same category), then we are looking at roughly 250 million avowed supporters of terrorism in the world.

Second, this is from a Pew Research Poll titled "What the World Thinks in 2002". This was conducted less than a year after 9/11. So, it is a pretty good assumption that this is representative of the general consensus of the muslim population at the time...not just the "fanatics".

Third, look at the poll again. What countries aren't represented there? Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. It is safe to say that with how apalling these numbers are, they are probably pretty conservative.

This is an area where I part with the liberals. Let's not be politically correct here. A spade is a spade. I have good friends that are muslim. They are nice guys and good to hang out with. But their theology, at its core, is far from peaceful. Luckily, they are progressive enough to disregard the bloody parts. But even they can say they understand, on some level given the theology, where the fanatics are coming from.

It is what it is. We need to stop deluding ourselves of this fact.

...oh yeah, and we need to stop watching some of the sewage that calls itself television.
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+1 You're gonna get a lot of hater response.
 
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What percentage of Christians in this country were A-OK with bombing civilians in Iraq for no reason at all?

Also, why did they only poll in those countries?
 
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BeecherVol said:
"Raised Christian"?
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Interview said:
Time: Are you religious?



McVeigh: I was raised Catholic. I was confirmed Catholic (received the sacrament of confirmation). Through my military years, I sort of lost touch with the religion. I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.



Time: Do you believe in God?



McVeigh: I do believe in a God, yes. But that's as far as I want to discuss. If I get too detailed on some things that are personal like that, it gives people an easier way [to] alienate themselves from me and that's all they are looking for now.
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The Oklahoma City bombing was a Christian attack. Timothy McVeigh was heavily influenced by the Christian Identity movement.
 
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VolBurgers said:
What percentage of Christians in this country were A-OK with bombing civilians in Iraq for no reason at all?

Also, why did they only poll in those countries?
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The ones I know would not be, you suggesting that was the reason for the bombs dropping is absurd at best.

If you purposefully (murder) innocent civilians anywhere you are wrong.

Do innocent people die in acts of war? yes. See 9/11 for a close to home shot of it.
 
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VolBurgers said:
What percentage of Christians in this country were A-OK with bombing civilians in Iraq for no reason at all?

Also, why did they only poll in those countries?
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Are civilians being specifically targeted, or are we talking about collateral damage in the course of attacking military targets? The answer to this question puts us in a different moral universe altogether.

There are legitimate arguments about whether or not we should have gone to war, but how we conduct the war is where the difference is, and what I am talking about. There is a reason we don't lie awake at night worrying about what Amish, Christian, or Jewish fundamentalists are going to do to us. While a fundamentalist society made up of those religions would present their own problems, they would not manufacture suicidal terrorists the way an Islamic society would. There is no getting around this fact.

Again, a spade is a spade. Not admitting this is stupidity at the cost of political correctness.
 
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VolBurgers said:
The Oklahoma City bombing was a Christian attack. Timothy McVeigh was heavily influenced by the Christian Identity movement.
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A bunch of white supremacist adding the word Christian to their cause does not make a Christian oganization. Tomothy McViegh wanted to overthrow the government for a master race not a master religion.
 
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MontereyVol said:
A bunch of white supremacist adding the word Christian to their cause does not make a Christian oganization. .
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Ah, nice double standard there. Extremist christians are not actually christians, but extremist muslims represent all muslims.

I see how this works.
 
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rjd970 said:
Are civilians being specifically targeted, or are we talking about collateral damage in the course of attacking military targets? The answer to this question puts us in a different moral universe altogether.

There are legitimate arguments about whether or not we should have gone to war, but how we conduct the war is where the difference is, and what I am talking about. There is a reason we don't lie awake at night worrying about what Amish, Christian, or Jewish fundamentalists are going to do to us. While a fundamentalist society made up of those religions would present their own problems, they would not manufacture suicidal terrorists the way an Islamic society would. There is no getting around this fact.

Again, a spade is a spade. Not admitting this is stupidity at the cost of political correctness.
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Call it an "act of war" if it makes you feel better. Innocent civilians were decimated in Iraq for no reason at all.

Also, I don't lie awake a night losing sleep, worrying about the angry moslems, sorry if you do.
 
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