OSU on predictably of Tennessee offense

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jps2194 said:
Even worse take on your part. When we are going 3 and out, it puts a lot of pressure on defense and results in bad field position. With our 2022 offense, OSU isn't putting up 21 on us.
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The point is the defense was a sieve. Ohio State would've been determined to score some more if they had to.
 
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Volbrando said:
So I guess when Heupel said there would be nothing new on offense defense or special teams he really wasn’t kidding after all. We are so predictable on offense already it wouldn’t have been hard for them to figure us out. That’s on the coaches
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Have been all year. Both offense and defense. Have to stir the pot every now and then.
 
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MurphyVol said:

A big reason why that was the case was because Ohio State received the exact looks from the Vols' offense that they were expecting based on what they saw on film from Tennessee.

"We had three weeks to prepare (for Tennessee)," said Ransom. "Hats off to the coaches. It's easy to play fast when you've been shown so many looks, you've been shown what's expected from them. And that's why we were able to play fast and react fast because we had seen it three weeks in a row. Our coaches came up with a great game plan. Our scouts did a great job for the last three weeks.
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Read that this morning. Cause for concern. Heupel needs to run different plays off of a set so the defense wouldn't know what was coming before the snap. Not hard to defend when you know what the playbook is.
 
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Like it or not, Sampson was the one that dictated how this offense would preform. He wasn’t ready to play in a game of this size, whether it was injury or sickness or whatever. Our WRs couldn’t get off press coverage hardly at all. You had Bru that did a little work out there but mostly even when “open” it was very tight windows. Oline pretty much sucked all game.

So idk if they had some advanced game plan or anything but they weren’t able to execute it. Whatever prep the staff put in was totally wasted on complete lack of execution.
 
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Volbrando said:
So I guess when Heupel said there would be nothing new on offense defense or special teams he really wasn’t kidding after all. We are so predictable on offense already it wouldn’t have been hard for them to figure us out. That’s on the coaches
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Agreed. Literally everyone has figured him out. Against similar talent his scheme doesn't work. He's gonna have to change some stuff up or he won't be here very long.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Overconfidence in his players, I imagine that was Heup's error. We've seen it in the past when he behaved as if he never saw a 4th down he didn't like. However, I'm confident ole Josh will modify his approach henceforth, to the betterment of the program.
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He'd better or his tenure here will come to an end more quickly than he hopes.
 
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MemphisVolFan1978 said:
I’ve been wondering about this. Is the lack of creativity on offense due to the inability of the players to execute more dynamic plays?

Also, I know I have seen this mentioned before, but why will our defensive backs not turn their heads and try to make a play on the ball? Some of those OSU receptions could have been intercepted or at least batted away. Are they coached to just watch the receivers’ hands and just try to get their hand in there when they see the receivers raising their hands to make the catch?
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DBs are taught both ways, the thing is if you turn your head the exact time a receiver makes a post or flag cut, the fans say at home how in the world did Hyatt get so wide open. The DB turned at the wrong time its taught both ways but if a receiver is faster or more athletic turning can get you lost but turning is best in regard to, you hardly ever get a PI for hand fighting, slight pushing bumping etc. with head turned to the ball. It just very hard to do if you're outclassed by a 5-star receiver.
The OSU Receivers are dynamic if some on here saw the way OSU plays were called versus Michigan, they would really be mad if they were OSU fans.
 
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Yes three weeks to prepare helped. The issue is that they have superior talent each spot on defense.

We had three weeks too. And we showed some new stuff on offense. We would have shown even more, but our offensive line is shart. We have no tackles. None. Heard is a right guard at best. Nico never had a chance.
 
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kell7517 said:
No disrespect, but I’ve seen several
Posts in different forums in regards to we miss Golesh. If he’s the offensive genius some talk about. Why hasn’t he done a better job at USF?
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There are major differences in skill sets with being a coordinator and focusing on X's and O's of the game versus managing an entire program and staff, where you serve as more of a CEO. A lot of coaches are great assistants, but poor head coaches. He could very well be one of them.
 
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kell7517 said:
No disrespect, but I’ve seen several
Posts in different forums in regards to we miss Golesh. If he’s the offensive genius some talk about. Why hasn’t he done a better job at USF?
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Being a OC at Major programs with top class athletes and being a HC at a very mid tier school is 2 different animals. I'd take him back as our OC in a nano second.
 
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Who cares about the looks? You can run different plays from the same set and sometimes you can line up and just beat the man in front of you. They had safeties 20 yards of the ball and we couldn’t do anything underneath. Mainly because we have a qb that refuses to throw the ball, can’t throw the ball accurately, and because everything we run underneath is 30 yards to the sides.
 
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stolitonic said:
Come on now.

I'm sure it took them several weeks to decipher the play calling on one of our offensive series-

1st down run
Second down run
Third down screen pass
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I think you're forgetting about that one time we ran it screen, run, run. I think there was even a time it was run, screen, run. I may be dreaming that last one actually.
 
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GameTime said:
The lack of creative effort by our coaches has been expressed by a number of posters....We used the same old game plan, while Ohio came up with a lot of new wrinkles...

Our guys on defense had no idea what they were doing, while their defense reacted like they had been in our offensive huddle.

It was a terrible way to end, what had been, a fun season.
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In addition to superior pre-game preparation, their players were physically fit and ready for the challenge. They played with passion and at a high and sustained energy level.

By contrast, many of our players appeared disinterested and showed little emotion. Even during OSU’s first drive, some of our players had hands on hips and looked out of shape. No doubt it was a disappointing ending to the season. Hopefully, CJH will do a thorough program review and implement the necessary changes!

It will be football time in Tennessee before we know it. I look forward to it every year and thank God for giving me the opportunity to enjoy it!

Merry Christmas Vol nation. I hope all of y’all and your families have a wonderful Holiday season!
 
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I called about 6-7 in a row in the first quarter Saturday night. It has been that way all year long. However, if Oline had made a couple of pass protecting blocks and our WR had made the effort to get open, we likely would have scored a couple of more touchdowns in the first half. Repeat that in the second half and we win. The more I think about it, both the offensive and defensive Coordinators have failed our team most of the year. The lack of preparation was not needed in the pre SEC pushovers, but it killed us in the rest of the season. We clearly should have won the Arkansas and Georgia games and the Ohio State game should have been competitive. Coordinator preparation and position coaching, except for the defensive line was our failure. Kinda reminds me of the last couple of Fulmer years.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
It's true, but the same stuff was said about Chip Kelly in past seasons. I suspect the lack of creativity is more the result of the O-line issues. There's only so much you can do when the D is in your backfield within 1-2 seconds constantly. We desperately need help on the O-line next year.

And let's be honest ... the game was over in the 1st Quarter when our D couldn't stop anything. D has been great for most of the season, but looked severely outmatched against OSU. Once we were down 21-0, game was over.

All in all, we got beat by a better team that played their best game of the season.
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Agree. The oline issues are 2 years running now. Also, the lack of difference makers at WR.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
It's true, but the same stuff was said about Chip Kelly in past seasons. I suspect the lack of creativity is more the result of the O-line issues. There's only so much you can do when the D is in your backfield within 1-2 seconds constantly. We desperately need help on the O-line next year.

And let's be honest ... the game was over in the 1st Quarter when our D couldn't stop anything. D has been great for most of the season, but looked severely outmatched against OSU. Once we were down 21-0, game was over.

All in all, we got beat by a better team that played their best game of the season.
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This. You got to see what happens when the defense breaks down. This team rode the backs of the defense and Sampson all season, and without either of those, you’re in for a long day. The one positive from this game was that Nico played with some grit. Hopefully he continues to build on that.
 
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rocketskates said:
This. You got to see what happens when the defense breaks down. This team rode the backs of the defense and Sampson all season, and without either of those, you’re in for a long day. The one positive from this game was that Nico played with some grit. Hopefully he continues to build on that.
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Our Dline was exposed against UGA and OSU.
 
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LordBolton said:
I think you're forgetting about that one time we ran it screen, run, run. I think there was even a time it was run, screen, run. I may be dreaming that last one actually.
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Been hitting the old egg nog I see lol.

Change up our play sequencing? Never ! Is that even allowed? We would probably get the death penalty from the NCAA.
 
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