Our chances at Oregon.....

#527
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Smokefatty said:
If you could put together a coherent sentence, maybe we could comprehend better. You said they rely on misdirection, not athleticism or talent at the RB position, correct?
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You are 95 percent correct. I wasn't talking about any specific position or player but rather their system. Thomas could be the best RB ever to play college football but their system doesn't rely on him being great. Their offense is designed to maximize output by keeping the defense confused, off-balance, and worn-out. Thomas could also be the slowest RB ever and their offense would still get decent production out of him when the system is running right.

Kelly himself would tell you -- it's an offense designed to make mediocre and good players competitive with anyone's defense. If they're great players then that's a bonus.
 
#530
#530
Guys, if you aren't familiar with his work, UTProf is, as his username suggests, a faculty member at our beloved University of Tennessee, so let's show a little respect. Reading between the lines, I believe that the following points are implicit in his interpretation although you apparently do not consider them to be clearly stated: (1) Oregon's success is predicated on a finely tuned offensive system; they execute it with great precision and at a pace that eventually forces opposing defenses to break down, especially on the perimeter. (2) Play-calling and precise execution are more integral to Oregon's overall success than an across-the-board advantage in talent. (3) The latter point does not presuppose the absence of great talent among Oregon's skilled-position personnel; it is clearly there.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
Guys, if you aren't familiar with his work, UTProf is, as his username suggests, a faculty member at our beloved University of Tennessee, so let's show a little respect. Reading between the lines, I believe that the following points are implicit in his interpretation although you apparently do not consider them to be clearly stated: (1) Oregon's success is predicated on a finely tuned offensive system; they execute it with great precision and at a pace that eventually forces opposing defenses to break down, especially on the perimeter. (2) Play-calling and precise execution are more integral to Oregon's overall success than an across-the-board advantage in talent. (3) The latter point does not presuppose the absence of great talent among Oregon's skilled-position personnel; it is clearly there.
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I don't care who signs his paycheck, if he makes a ridiculous claim he had better be prepared to back it up. When he gives us his list of RBs who faster and more athletic than Thomas he will have proven his claim. Until then it is just another BS post.
 
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#532
I understand and respect your position. However, did he make disparaging remarks about the speed or athletic ability of any of Oregon's skilled-position personnel or, for that matter, compare them directly to their counterparts on other teams? I don't think so.
 
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#533
#533
If our Oline comes in and establishes a run game and puts together long drives we will atleast hang with them. This game will come down to one thing and one thing only...how well we run the ball and hopefully tire their defense down.

If we cannot do that, it will be a long day for the Vols. If we can do that, we have a shot.
 
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UTProf said:
You are 95 percent correct. I wasn't talking about any specific position or player but rather their system. Thomas could be the best RB ever to play college football but their system doesn't rely on him being great. Their offense is designed to maximize output by keeping the defense confused, off-balance, and worn-out. Thomas could also be the slowest RB ever and their offense would still get decent production out of him when the system is running right.

Kelly himself would tell you -- it's an offense designed to make mediocre and good players competitive with anyone's defense. If they're great players then that's a bonus.
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in other words what he is saying is it is a very detail oriented, execution based system, any extra athleticism is just a bonus. When its clicking its hard to stop but if u can keep one guy from getting a guy sealed off or one guy from running his route exact by jamming him then it could blow up the whole play. Some systems are more based off of athletes, teams like LSU , Bama, where they just line up and plan on players making plays in one on one situations. Thus the difference in the typical spread and pro offense.
 
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#538
The spread offense was designed for teams with below average size (especially OL) and a lower talent level at WR. It is an offense designed to get ur playmakers in open space. Thats why it has to be executed to perfection.
 
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#540
I think we lose , however our record shouldn't be the basis of expectations. We play the best teams every other week. I know we are starting a new system and qb. You never know if the team will click. There's always a chance. I bet that Louisiana team thought Florida was gonna ream them last year. There have been many upsets in football, that's why I can hope
 
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DC Vol said:
Realistically, it wouldn't surprise me if the coaches aren't devoting much time to gameplanning for Oregon. This game was scheduled back when we did all our Pac-10 home/aways which started in 2007. Back then, Oregon wasn't the Oregon of now and we weren't the UT of now.

We're just simply not in a position to compete at that level nationally and then turn around and play in Florida against another Top 10 team.

Coaches only have so much time to prepare and install our Off/Def and Oregon is such a departure in terms of Offense/Defense... Florida just makes more sense to gameplan against given they run a much more similar offense to just about every other team on our schedule.

So, long story short, I'm not expecting much. I'm not saying I don't think our team will compete. I think it will. I'm just saying the coaches, at least from a strategic point of view, in my mind will focus on more realistic and important games than @Oregon for the 2nd game of Jones' tenure.

And I'm also not saying Florida is an easier game... it's just a much more logical team to prepare for in terms of impact on recruiting, standing in the SEC and also how far it will carry fan opinion.

I'd far rather beat Florida than Oregon.
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