Our coaches hit the road today evaluating prospects....

#326
#326
justingroves said:
Look at how many flops Tennessee has had. Hell, Texas is the king of flops.
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I agree, and bigger schools have more success because of greater talent. That all goes away when you hit the league. Therefore, you better had absorbed your coaching in college to make a difference. Sometimes out talenting teams doesn't make you a better coached team. Fulmer found that out later in his career.
 
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#327
kptvol said:
Jerry Rice may not have had a great 40 combine time, but he was plenty fast. Mike Williams and Dwayne Jarrett just aren't. Also, didn't you say something about USC's entire offense revolving around being faster than everyone?
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No it's obvious. Jerry Rice's coaches at Mississippi Valley State were better than Kiffin
 
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#329
Sabanocchio said:
There's plenty of humor to be found on these boards IMO. Very little of it is the result of trolling though.
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there is pretty much no humor at all on VN. that's why I stay in the recruiting forum and talk about prospects.

i get my laughs from other boards.
 
#330
#330
Nick Saban is arguably one of the greatest college football coaches in college football today. His first 4 years at Michigan State he went 6-6 twice, 6-5-1, and 7-5. Now I can imagine you would have a problem hiring a guy with a piss poor record like that at Michigan State. LSU took a chance, the rest is history.

Not trying to compare Dooley to Saban, but why judge a guy who hasn't even coached one game at UT?
 
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#333
g8terh8ter_eric said:
I agree, and bigger schools have more success because of greater talent. That all goes away when you hit the league. Therefore, you better had absorbed your coaching in college to make a difference. Sometimes out talenting teams doesn't make you a better coached team. Fulmer found that out later in his career.
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Those Florida teams that pounded Manning, Little, Wilson, and a host of other successful NFLers had plenty of flops. In fact, Steve Spurrier might be the king of offensive flops in the 90s. You'll have a hard time finding anyone who'll call him a bad coach.
 
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#336
g8terh8ter_eric said:
I agree, and bigger schools have more success because of greater talent. That all goes away when you hit the league. Therefore, you better had absorbed your coaching in college to make a difference. Sometimes out talenting teams doesn't make you a better coached team. Fulmer found that out later in his career.
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That falls directly on the player, not the coach.
 
#337
#337
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Spurrier >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fulmer.

Although, look at Spurrier at South Carolina without the big school montra.
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#341
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Spurrier >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fulmer.

Although, look at Spurrier at South Carolina without the big school montra.
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And how many flops did the ole ball coach produce whilst at Florida? It'd take me a good long while to name them all. But without that big school mantra he managed to produce Sidney Rice, one of his best NFL products.
 
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#344
kptvol said:
And how many flops did the ole ball coach produce whilst at Florida? It'd take me a good long while to name them all.
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I agree, but you didn't see him saying that he was going to put players in the league either. He said he wanted to kick ass, and that's what he did.
 
#350
#350
kptvol said:
Did Kiffin not just put 7 guys in the league? Guys that have a sub .500 record over the past two years?
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I'd like to think that they learned to be better players over the course of the 3-5 years they were here, and Berry was a projected Top 10 pick from the time he stepped foot on campus. I would say that Dan Williams is the biggest success from the Kiffin regime of coaching, IMO.
 
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