Our national title claims

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So I was looking up our national title claims and I don't think we should claim 3 of the 6. 1967 we lost 2 games and our bowl game, 1951 we lost our bowl game and 1940 we lost our bowl game. Why don't we claim 1914, 1927, 1928 and 1931 when we didn't lose any games? We really should have 7 titles. 1914, 1927, 1928, 1931, 1938, 1950 and 1998. I realize this is a cool story bro thread and some of alabama's claims are even stupider but I just thought it was interesting to see the titles we do claim then the ones we don't. Also, Merry Christmas!
 
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Answer: we aren't Alabama and have to toot our own horn at every possible moment to be proud of our heritage.

In all honesty you'll probably hear we played in a weaker conference compared to other teams that were also undefeated in those years as the rationale.
 
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Obsessedvol said:
So I was looking up our national title claims and I don't think we should claim 3 of the 6. 1967 we lost 2 games and our bowl game, 1951 we lost our bowl game and 1940 we lost our bowl game. Why don't we claim 1914, 1927, 1928 and 1931 when we didn't lose any games? We really should have 7 titles. 1914, 1927, 1928, 1931, 1938, 1950 and 1998. I realize this is a cool story bro thread and some of alabama's claims are even stupider but I just thought it was interesting to see the titles we do claim then the ones we don't. Also, Merry Christmas!
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Different times, different standards. Christmas has always been the same. Merry Christmas!
 
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Claim 6 or Claim 2? Hmmmmm since we dont have a playoff, the formula used says we won 6. Thats what I count.
 
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Tennessee claims those where they were actually named #1 by an outside source recognized at the time. The 1967 team lost its first game, at UCLA and won them all until the Orange Bowl vs Okla. Back then, bowls weren't considered in the final polls. The final poll was at end of the reg season. Tenn lost the game missing a fg on last play after being down 19-0 at half.

Bama claims the 1964 NC after the lost to Texas in the Orange Bowl.
 
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wmcovol said:
Tennessee claims those where they were actually named #1 by an outside source recognized at the time. The 1967 team lost its first game, at UCLA and won them all until the Orange Bowl vs Okla. Back then, bowls weren't considered in the final polls. The final poll was at end of the reg season. Tenn lost the game missing a fg on last play after being down 19-0 at half.

Bama claims the 1964 NC after the lost to Texas in the Orange Bowl.
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I didn't know that about the bowls. Thanks for mentioning that.
 
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Yeah bowl games back in the day weren't a good measure. Even today some of them aren't a good measure of a team.

Think about the '39 Vols only lost was to USC in the Rose Bowl. Yeah measuring a team that had a streak of shut outs like that one did isn't a good measure when its to USC in The Rose Bowl. Imagine traveling as a team to L.A. from Knoxville in 1939?? Many of the star players couldn't make the trip either because of numerous reasons ie working on family farms etc etc.
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When most of those titles were claimed, the final polls came out at the end of the regular season, and the rankings were not revised after the bowls games. The General considered the bowl trip a reward for seniors and an opportunity for returning players to practice for the next regular season. I assure you that the General's pitiful bowl record would not have been pitiful had he though bowls meant anything.

I remember the 1951 team well, and we have not had a team of that caliber since (1998 included.)
 
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Losing in a bowl used to not mean anything way back in the day. Bowls were treated as a celebratory kinda thing at the end of the season. It wasn't really seen how it is now.
 
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cgbtn said:
When most of those titles were claimed, the final polls came out at the end of the regular season, and the rankings were not revised after the bowls games. The General considered the bowl trip a reward for seniors and an opportunity for returning players to practice for the next regular season. I assure you that the General's pitiful bowl record would not have been pitiful had he though bowls meant anything.

I remember the 1951 team well, and we have not had a team of that caliber since (1998 included.)
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I think our 2005 preseason team was as good.
 
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I will always claim the 1940 title just because that team shut out their schedule. And they picked the National Champs before the bowls back then.
 
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