Pac-10 Expansion (merged)

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104.5 in Nashville just had Andy Staples from Sports Illustrated on and he said DO NOT discount these rumors. He was in Destin at the SEC meetings and said he's gonna try to interview school presidents this afternoon when they get out of their meetings just to get their thoughts.

If this happens I can't help but think how Kiffin will fare now with Texas and OU in his conference. He ran from the toughest conference to win to perhaps the easiest. Oh how his world might get flipped upside down.
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#27
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Ericvol2096 said:
Once again a very interesting scenario...if this happens, and the Big 10 grabs Mizzou, Neb, Rutgers, Pitt and ND.

Then the SEC will be left scrambling for the likes of VT, GT, Clemson, FSU and Miami.
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Big 10 isnt going to get ND unless something happens to make the big east fall apart; in turn Pitt wont be going to the Big 10 unless they get ND or NEB/MIZZ/RUTG says no

I dont think this is happening though, after reading the article this is really reeking of speculation more than any sort of reality

I mean, if you recall, when the Big 10 bids word got out, ESPN was all over it that day. If this were true even if found out by rivals, espn would still be all over the news today if something this big were to actually be going on


....also I doubt Texas would be leaving and that "left with" category that you make look like also rans, would still be a good gain, though for some reason you seem to think that an invite from the SEC means the complete and total obliteration of the ACC
 
#28
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You see, the real issue is that both the PAC10 and the SEC would love to have Texas University, and for obvious reasons. The problem is that Texas has two big rivals, and each of those rivals.

You cant take Austin without College Station
You cant take Austin with out Norman
Norman wont leave without Stillwater
and I just dont think I could live without hating Lubbock with every ounce of my being.

I bet we stay put.
 
#31
#31
if they did go through with that it would be HUGE

what would the Big Ten and SEC do? Big East next to be raided? Would the rest of the BigXII try to join the SEC? Big Ten?

Kind of crazy IMO
 
#32
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droski said:
yes but the sec isn't going to take oklahoma et all and texas might want to keep that rivalry.
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and yet the last time they turned down a conference invite it was because A&M wasnt included too

I mean i know youre excited about this as a Cal fan, but doesnt all this seem a little, i dunno, too good to be true?
 
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TrueOrange said:
and yet the last time they turned down a conference invite it was because A&M wasnt included too

I mean i know youre excited about this as a Cal fan, but doesnt all this seem a little, i dunno, too good to be true?
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i'm not sure the pac-10 has the balls to do it frankly. in reality cal might be better off staying with the current situation since it would be a lot harder ot win the conference in this situation.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
You see, the real issue is that both the PAC10 and the SEC would love to have Texas University, and for obvious reasons. The problem is that Texas has two big rivals, and each of those rivals.

You cant take Austin without College Station
You cant take Austin with out Norman
Norman wont leave without Stillwater
and I just dont think I could live without hating Lubbock with every ounce of my being.

I bet we stay put.
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Also there's that Texas is really contemplating trying to get their own independence in football with their own sports network and such


Damn you texans and your constant need for independence :)
 
#36
#36
milohimself said:
Colorado to the PAC makes total sense. It's been thoroughly discussed here.
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Apparently though the new word from ESPN is that Colorado might not be that interested in moving conferences anymore
 
#38
#38
Texas and Oklahoma existed in separate conferences for a long, long time before the Big 12 existed. No need for that rivalry to die if they split.

What I am shocked by is if this happens as currently laid out, Kansas is getting ROYALLY screwed over. Not so much a big deal in football, but I can't imagine a conference not wanting them for bball purposes.
 
#39
#39
Lot of money being thrown around these days and this would bring together a bunch of big markets. LA, Dallas, Houston, San Fran, Seattle, Phoenix, Sacramento
 
#40
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droski said:
i'm not sure the pac-10 has the balls to do it frankly. in reality cal might be better off staying with the current situation since it would be a lot harder ot win the conference in this situation.
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it just - with all the news on texas trying its own sports network upcoming among other things - seems too ideal or too good to be true

it's like if someone came in and said "ZOMG, the SEC is getting ready to add Texas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Va Tech" kind of thing.

It runs really heavily counter to two things. The first being the PAC-10s over insistance that it likes its "everyone plays everyone" format and not wanting to expand (though the fans want to) (their move seems to be their second media day on the east coast)

But perhaps even bigger, there was just a massive meeting between the two conferences about "partnership" between the two and not poaching each others' teams. Considering how much went into that meeting - and since the commisions are business run - it just seems odd to see a scenario where...

...well pretty much after the Big 12 turned around when they finished shaking hands, the Pac 10 stabbed him in the back with the letter opener on the table
 
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tigervol9802 said:
What I am shocked by is if this happens as currently laid out, Kansas is getting ROYALLY screwed over. Not so much a big deal in football, but I can't imagine a conference not wanting them for bball purposes.
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bball doesn't pay the bills
 
#43
#43
tigervol9802 said:
Texas and Oklahoma existed in separate conferences for a long, long time before the Big 12 existed. No need for that rivalry to die if they split.

What I am shocked by is if this happens as currently laid out, Kansas is getting ROYALLY screwed over. Not so much a big deal in football, but I can't imagine a conference not wanting them for bball purposes.
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That bothers me too when looking at this. Conference building isnt a football-centric business that could care less about basketball. KU wouldnt be left out on its own if even just for the national followings its basketball team gets as probably one of the big 4
 
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#44
TrueOrange said:
It runs really heavily counter to two things. The first being the PAC-10s over insistance that it likes its "everyone plays everyone" format and not wanting to expand (though the fans want to) (their move seems to be their second media day on the east coast)

But perhaps even bigger, there was just a massive meeting between the two conferences about "partnership" between the two and not poaching each others' teams. Considering how much went into that meeting - and since the commisions are business run - it just seems odd to see a scenario where...

...well pretty much after the Big 12 turned around when they finished shaking hands, the Pac 10 stabbed him in the back with the letter opener on the table
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i think most of the commisioners are off the round robin thing anyway. it hasn't helped the pac-10 at all. they also want the $$$ for a championship game and realize that their tv contract isn't going to improve materially wiht the same teams. i wouldn't be surprised in teh slightest if many pac-10 ADs talked to the individual big-12 ads to see if they had any interest in switching.
 
#46
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droski said:
bball doesn't pay the bills
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Conference expansions though arent a football-only thing in their decisions; they never have been (well, except when fans make the beat-their-chest-my-conference-is-all-the-best-teams super conferences)
 
#47
#47
TrueOrange said:
Conference expansions though arent a football-only thing in their decisions; they never have been (well, except when fans make the beat-their-chest-my-conference-is-all-the-best-teams super conferences)
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i disagree. they are almost always football based. very much doubt the MWC is thinking of adding boise for their bball team.
 
#48
#48
The majority of the schools from the Big 12 being talked about bring much more than football. I'd say with the exception of Colorado, every school has had recent significance on the National scene within the last decade. Yes, that includes aTm.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
The majority of the schools from the Big 12 being talked about bring much more than football. I'd say with the exception of Colorado, every school has had recent significance on the National scene within the last decade. Yes, that includes aTm.
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the pac-10 does definetly care about the non revenue sports. most pac-10 schools compete in a lot more sports than most other conferences. personaly i wish we cared more about football.
 
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