Palin-Beck, 2012

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lawgator1 said:
It is an objectively true fact that both of them are idiots. I have no problem announcing here and now that I wouldn't vote either of them to be hall monitor, much less POTUS.

Now, if the R's nominate Romney and he's running against someone like H. Clinton, I'd certainly give him a look-see.

But either of those two nutjobs? No way, no how.
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If you would choose Obama to run a company over Beck, you are objectively the idiot.
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#27
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kev20 said:
well, "unqualified" seemed to work for the majority last year.
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Cry me a river. Most of the conservative party have taken over the liberals as the whiny bunch lately. It really is pathetic.

Unqualified or not, the guy is smart. That was my point. Same with Clinton, and both Bush's.
 
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rjd970 said:
Cry me a river. Most of the conservative party have taken over the liberals as the whiny bunch lately. It really is pathetic.

Unqualified or not, the guy is smart. That was my point. Same with Clinton, and both Bush's.
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Come on. GWB was a legacy. His administration was littered wit smart people and went astray when W decided he was the smart one.

The jury's out on Obama. He's a great speaker and can rally support. Otherwise, he has been an utter dumbass. Harvard isn't immune to morons.
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rjd970 said:
Cry me a river. Most of the conservative party have taken over the liberals as the whiny bunch lately. It really is pathetic.

Unqualified or not, the guy is smart. That was my point. Same with Clinton, and both Bush's.
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plenty of idiots have attended ivy league schools. i like you to point out a single thing obama has done in office that indicates he has higher thinking than the rest of the democratic party.
 
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droski said:
plenty of idiots have attended ivy league schools. i like you to point out a single thing obama has done in office that indicates he has higher thinking than the rest of the democratic party.
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Absolutely.
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BigPapaVol said:
Come on. GWB was a legacy. His administration was littered wit smart people and went astray when W decided he was the smart one.

The jury's out on Obama. He's a great speaker and can rally support. Otherwise, he has been an utter dumbass. Harvard isn't immune to morons.
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They just don't let anybody into Ivy League schools. Mediocre grades or not, GWB was smarter than he let on. Whoever he has on staff is overblown, he was the man with the final decision and got elected to two terms. He did, afterall, hire them. I'm convinced the cowboy routine and religious stuff was an act to appeal to the religious and social conservatives. By all accounts I have read from the insiders, all of that was a means to an end and the right wing nutjobs were tolerated more than anything else.

At least GWB was politically savvy, I'm not even sure Palin can say that now.
 
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let's also point out that obama has refused to release his transript at harvard. if he really is so friggin smart, why not let the world know it?
 
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rjd970 said:
Cry me a river. Most of the conservative party have taken over the liberals as the whiny bunch lately. It really is pathetic.

Unqualified or not, the guy is smart. That was my point. Same with Clinton, and both Bush's.
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Why does everyone say this guy is so smart? Because he can read a teleprompter? Have you ever heard him when he does not have his teleprompter? Uhhhh, ummmm that is all he can get out when he does not have Rohm Emanuel telling him what to say. And just because someone is smart does qualify him to be president.
 
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droski said:
let's also point out that obama has refused to release his transript at harvard. if he really is so friggin smart, why not let the world know it?
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I too am interested in hearing the spin on that one.
 
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rjd970 said:
They just don't let anybody into Ivy League schools. Mediocre grades or not, GWB was smarter than he let on. Whoever he has on staff is overblown, he was the man with the final decision and got elected to two terms. He did, afterall, hire them. I'm convinced the cowboy routine and religious stuff was an act to appeal to the religious and social conservatives. By all accounts I have read from the insiders, all of that was a means to an end and the right wing nutjobs were tolerated more than anything else.

At least GWB was politically savvy, I'm not even sure Palin can say that now.
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i have quite a few friends that got into stanford simply because they were legacys just like GWB. i doubt obama met the regular harvard admission standards either. that isnt' to say i think either are stupid necessarily, just not intellectual giants by any stretch of the imagination.
 
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droski said:
plenty of idiots have attended ivy league schools. i like you to point out a single thing obama has done in office that indicates he has higher thinking than the rest of the democratic party.
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Don't you mean disagreed with the rest of the democratic party? Disagreeing with policy, and questioning intelligence are two totally different things.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Why does everyone say this guy is so smart? Because he can read a teleprompter? Have you ever heard him when he does not have his teleprompter? Uhhhh, ummmm that is all he can get out when he does not have Rohm Emanuel telling him what to say. And just because someone is smart does qualify him to be president.
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But your the one on here touting Palin. Brilliant.
 
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rjd970 said:
But your the one on here touting Palin. Brilliant.
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You are the one on here telling everyone how brilliant Hussein is. My point is, is that he is not all that bright. I don't know how smart Palin is, but I know I relate to her more than Hussein. I would take her every day over this communist
 
#43
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rjd970 said:
I disagree about the dumb part with Palin, liberal media bias aside.

And I don't want a "regular person" to be president. The job is too important. Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar, GWB went to Princeton, Obama went to Harvard. Elitist or not....whether you agree with policy decisions or not.....intelligence should be a requirement for the highest office in the land.

Americans in general, and Palin supporters in particular, have an unhealthy desire to see average people promoted to positions of great authority and responsibility. Would you want an average nuerosurgeon doing surgery on your child? What about an average carpenter working on your house? But I guess when it comes to being the commander in chief of the most mighty military force and nuclear arsenal in the world, average is good enough.

The whole notion is absurd.
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I get your point to an extent but many of the best and brightest business people in this world did not receive degrees of any sort from the best colleges in the country.

What so many of those who attended prestigious universities lack is common sense. They don't know how the average person who balances their checkbook and lives on less than what they make feels or lives their life, not to mention the challenges they face. They see the world through their prism of privilege.

I am not arguing for Palin, I think she would be a bad choice for president, I just think an intelligent person who never attended a prestigious university would be just as capable of running the country. They couldn't really be any worse than what we have had for the last 9 or 10 years.

Where I believe the best and brightest of the highly educated are needed most are in the advisory and cabinet positions. In this way they could provide the president with the best information and a common sense approach could be formulated from it.
 
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volfanjustin said:
You are the one on here telling everyone how brilliant Hussein is. My point is, is that he is not all that bright. I don't know how smart Palin is, but I know I relate to her more than Hussein. I would take her every day over this communist
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Palin makes Obama look like Isaac Newton.
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volfanjustin said:
You are the one on here telling everyone how brilliant Hussein is. My point is, is that he is not all that bright. I don't know how smart Palin is, but I know I relate to her more than Hussein. I would take her every day over this communist
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Then just like with the guys who voted for Obama just because of his skin color you deserve any dysfunctional society you get as a result.
 
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KB5252 said:
I get your point to an extent but many of the best and brightest business people in this world did not receive degrees of any sort from the best colleges in the country.

What so many of those who attended prestigious universities lack is common sense. They don't know how the average person who balances their checkbook and lives on less than what they make feels or lives their life, not to mention the challenges they face. They see the world through their prism of privilege.

I am not arguing for Palin, I think she would be a bad choice for president, I just think an intelligent person who never attended a prestigious university would be just as capable of running the country. They couldn't really be any worse than what we have had for the last 9 or 10 years.

Where I believe the best and brightest of the highly educated are needed most are in the advisory and cabinet positions. In this way they could provide the president with the best information and a common sense approach could be formulated from it.
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damn. Rough generalization.
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rjd970 said:
Don't you mean disagreed with the rest of the democratic party? Disagreeing with policy, and questioning intelligence are two totally different things.
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not really. independent thinking is one of the pure signs of a higher intelligence. clinton went against his party on numerous occasionals. probably not often enough, but enough to suggest he could look at an issues himself without others telling him what to do. out of obama we havent' seen a single new idea.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
damn. Rough generalization.
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Trying to point out that the best educated in the country might very often be a terrible presidential candidate. A good business owner who has developed and managed his company over the years should be every bit as viable as ivy league educated career politician. Both have the same set of skills in many cases. The business man however is much less likely to be corrupted by his position in the company than the politician is with his position in government.

All I am saying is perhaps it is time for a common sense, bottom line type approach. A good business person would fit that bill rather well IMO, whether he received a degree or not.
 
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