Palin has "fire in her belly"

#52
#52
JayVols said:
Not being a smart alec, but if you think Obama is bad, Palin would be an unmitigated disaster. Palin would actually have to make decisions rather than make folksy attacks invoking hockey moms and momma grizzlies in 130 or less characters in a leadership role. She is a quitter, a charlatan, and IMO a simpleton. With her behavior, she deserves all the derision she gets. It is of her own making. Not huge Obama fan or hater, but hell would freeze over before I even entertained the notion of voting for a political joke and hack like Palin. Don't go nuts on me gs. Remember, I am a pretty decent guy. :).
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Inane conjecture at best.

If there is a charlatan in the equation it is surely
Barack Hussein Obama, Palin is the opposite, she
is sincere about what she wants to do, which is
what the vast majority of Americans would love
to see done.

Obama has been the proverbial bull in a china shop,
what he hasn't broken he has crapped on.

His best effort as a state senator was to introduce
a moslem halal food bill and propose a state holiday
honoring moslems.

As a US senator he took no stand on anything and
most often voted present.

He was successful in ramming through obamacair
which the majority of Americans oppose and is still
subject to numerous suits in courts and will be
decided in the supreme court which he has packed
with left wing nutjobs.

His recent budget bill got ZERO votes, not even one
democrat would vote for it.

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Palin OTOH has a stellar record.

Sarah Palin The Undefeated | Palin's record takes center stage in 'The Undefeated' | The Daily Caller

Stephen K. Bannon’s documentary on Sarah Palin,
“The Undefeated,” reveals a former city council
member, mayor, governor, and vice-presidential
candidate who has never been a darling of the
establishment, but has managed to stick to her
guns every step of the way. Via a montage of
media criticism of Palin from the mouths of Matt
Damon, Bill Maher, David Letterman, Howard Stern,
Ed Koch, Sharon Osbourne, and others,

Bannon quickly establishes a contrast between
the fictional character of Palin that has been
presented by the media and the real-life woman
who shook up business as usual through policies
grounded in free-market principles and putting
government back on the side of the people.
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#54
#54
gsvol said:
Inane conjecture at best.

If there is a charlatan in the equation it is surely
Barack Hussein Obama, Palin is the opposite, she
is sincere about what she wants to do, which is
what the vast majority of Americans would love
to see done.

Obama has been the proverbial bull in a china shop,
what he hasn't broken he has crapped on.

His best effort as a state senator was to introduce
a moslem halal food bill and propose a state holiday
honoring moslems.

As a US senator he took no stand on anything and
most often voted present.

He was successful in ramming through obamacair
which the majority of Americans oppose and is still
subject to numerous suits in courts and will be
decided in the supreme court which he has packed
with left wing nutjobs.

His recent budget bill got ZERO votes, not even one
democrat would vote for it.

Toon+066.jpg


Palin OTOH has a stellar record.

Sarah Palin The Undefeated | Palin's record takes center stage in 'The Undefeated' | The Daily Caller
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I have almost come to the conclusion that she may not be as dumb as I first thought. The more I hear from her, the more I think she actually believes what she says. That doesn't make her fund; it makes her delusional. The woman is a succubus.
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#59
#59
Vol Mania 21 said:
curious to know why you rather have obama than palin
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Obama might present himself as an ideologue, however, he has enough education and intelligence to understand that it is not pragmatic to go full bore with his ideals. Palin, on the other hand, has not demonstrated that she has/is/ever will be able to effectively compromise, and I seriously doubt she has the mental capacity to do so.

A vote for Palin would be a vote for her handlers; unfortunately, not even the McCain camp to effectively handle Palin in the lead up to the 2008 elections.
 
#60
#60
hmmm....

Palin - Drill baby drill
Obama - Buy a chevy volt(considering this economy most ppl can't afford it)

which makes more sense? don't get me wrong here, i'm not a huge palin supporter, however other than getting OBL what has obama done that was good?

edit: i forgot about killing the pirates to save the american captain
 
#61
#61
JayVols said:
I have almost come to the conclusion that she may not be as dumb as I first thought. The more I hear from her, the more I think she actually believes what she says. That doesn't make her fund; it makes her delusional. The woman is a succubus.
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Delusional is what obama and his supporters are
doing to this country.

Brainwashed is what the people are who call her
stupid and/or delusional.

For one thing she has taken a stand that federal
ethanol subsidies should end immediately.

What other candidate doesn't support the inane,
insane ethanol subsidies??

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#62
#62
therealUT said:
Obama might present himself as an ideologue, however, he has enough education and intelligence to understand that it is not pragmatic to go full bore with his ideals. Palin, on the other hand, has not demonstrated that she has/is/ever will be able to effectively compromise, and I seriously doubt she has the mental capacity to do so.

A vote for Palin would be a vote for her handlers; unfortunately, not even the McCain camp to effectively handle Palin in the lead up to the 2008 elections.
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I want a president that won't compromise an inch with any liberal. The country has now had over two years of real world experience with far-left liberal policies and we see where that has gotten us. And I didn't see Obama compromise any until he was arse-kicked in the last election. And, while I'm at it, can you give me any example of Obama's "intelligence" besides his "education" credentials? Clearly everything he has done as president has had the exact opposite effect. I want you to close your eyes - and be honest with yourself - and really think about: what if Palin was president and had advocated passing a $800+ billion stimulus as the only way to keep unemployment below 8% or else it would be higher. Or passing hallmark legislation for healthcare that has now been given hundreds of exemptions for. Would that be enough to make her a genius?
 
#63
#63
therealUT said:
Obama might present himself as an ideologue, however, he has enough education and intelligence to understand that it is not pragmatic to go full bore with his ideals. Palin, on the other hand, has not demonstrated that she has/is/ever will be able to effectively compromise, and I seriously doubt she has the mental capacity to do so.

A vote for Palin would be a vote for her handlers; unfortunately, not even the McCain camp to effectively handle Palin in the lead up to the 2008 elections.
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I don't buy the piece about Obama even a little. You're mistaking pragmatism for wherewithal.
 
#64
#64
volthruandthru said:
I want a president that won't compromise an inch with any liberal. The country has now had over two years of real world experience with far-left liberal policies and we see where that has gotten us. And I didn't see Obama compromise any until he was arse-kicked in the last election. And, while I'm at it, can you give me any example of Obama's "intelligence" besides his "education" credentials? Clearly everything he has done as president has had the exact opposite effect. I want you to close your eyes - and be honest with yourself - and really think about: what if Palin was president and had advocated passing a $800+ billion stimulus as the only way to keep unemployment below 8% or else it would be higher. Or passing hallmark legislation for healthcare that has now been given hundreds of exemptions for. Would that be enough to make her a genius?
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Your argument, against Obama and for Palin, regarding the stimulus is incredibly flawed, since Bush signed the TARP package and McCain campaigned on saying that he would further stimulate the economy with government packages.

Obama has been hounded by the left for not being the ideologue they hope he would be. As an executive, he is as much left as Bush was right.
 
#66
#66
therealUT said:
Your argument, against Obama and for Palin, regarding the stimulus is incredibly flawed, since Bush signed the TARP package and McCain campaigned on saying that he would further stimulate the economy with government packages.

Obama has been hounded by the left for not being the ideologue they hope he would be. As an executive, he is as much left as Bush was right.
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Bush and McCain and TARP have nothing to do with Palin or this discussion. Palin is not either one of them and stands on her own two feet. My point was to attempt to help you understand that proclaiming Obama as "intelligent", even after 2+ years of his policies and results, is actually an insult of your intelligence. You still didn't give me an example of what he's done to deserve any reputation of being "smart".

And, for the record, I'm not a Palin supporter per se. I'm just saying that she would be 100x better than what we have now (but that ain't sayin much). Its just a pet-peeve to still hear people say that Obama's intelligent.
 
#67
#67
volthruandthru said:
Bush and McCain and TARP have nothing to do with Palin or this discussion. Palin is not either one of them and stands on her own two feet.
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Palin mumbles and stumbles around, yet, supports TARP...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwggusZYMQE[/youtube]
 
#68
#68
therealUT said:
Palin mumbles and stumbles around, yet, supports TARP...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwggusZYMQE[/youtube]
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Ok, just for fun I'll bite and take your response at face value: So Palin supported TARP,.....and Obama supported TARP,... then that must mean that "President Palin" would have governed the same way as Obama and with the same results we have today, thereby leading you to think she is intelligent.

It doesn't change that fact that she would be 100x better than what's in White House now. I give her the benefit of the doubt that she was towing the line for McCain, after all, he did just pick her for VP. What was she supposed to do? Throw McCain under the bus? Besides, I'm smart enough to realize that I'm not going to agree with any potential candidate 100%.

LOL but fine man, I understand. If I were you, I would want to ignore my argument that Obama is not intelligent too,

BTW: While your scouring the depths of YouTube for Palin video's, how about finding one that shows us how intelligent Obama is.
 
#69
#69
volthruandthru said:
Ok, just for fun I'll bite and take your response at face value: So Palin supported TARP,.....and Obama supported TARP,... then that must mean that "President Palin" would have governed the same way as Obama and with the same results we have today, thereby leading you to think she is intelligent.

It doesn't change that fact that she would be 100x better than what's in White House now. I give her the benefit of the doubt that she was towing the line for McCain, after all, he did just pick her for VP. What was she supposed to do? Throw McCain under the bus? Besides, I'm smart enough to realize that I'm not going to agree with any potential candidate 100%.

LOL but fine man, I understand. If I were you, I would want to ignore my argument that Obama is not intelligent too,

BTW: While your scouring the depths of YouTube for Palin video's, how about finding one that shows us how intelligent Obama is.
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You were the one who pointed to the bailouts to separate the two, not me; therefore, I am not obliged to accept your deduction that her stance makes her as inteligent as Obama. Nice effort, though.
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#70
#70
Palin may not be as well educated as Obama, but I believe she is at least as intelligent as he is. That's not saying much for either of them, but anybody who believes that Obama is some kind of genius is delusional.
 
#72
#72
therealUT said:
You were the one who pointed to the bailouts to separate the two, not me; therefore, I am not obliged to accept your deduction that her stance makes her as inteligent as Obama. Nice effort, though.
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I said Stimulus and Healthcare. You brought the TARP bank bailout in to deflect.
 
#74
#74
gsvol said:
Delusional is what obama and his supporters are
doing to this country.

Brainwashed is what the people are who call her
stupid and/or delusional.

For one thing she has taken a stand that federal
ethanol subsidies should end immediately.

What other candidate doesn't support the inane,
insane ethanol subsidies??

mitt61.jpg


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Yeah, those ethanol subsidies are vital to eliminating the deficit and growing employment. Geez.
 
#75
#75
gsvol said:
Delusional is what obama and his supporters are
doing to this country.

Brainwashed is what the people are who call her
stupid and/or delusional.

For one thing she has taken a stand that federal
ethanol subsidies should end immediately.

What other candidate doesn't support the inane,
insane ethanol subsidies??

mitt61.jpg


sn10508-2.jpg
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I think she is delusional, so I guess I am brainwashed to you.

Be careful what you ask for.
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