Palin quit because ....

Palin quit because ....

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#51
#51
joevol320 said:
dan quayle, it's pretty pathetic that you have to bring him up. your reaching like your boy hussein does.

you think joe biden could make to the airport?
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I used to like Biden, back in the early 90's, but am quickly coming to the conclusion that he's lost his mind.
 
#53
#53
lawgator1 said:
I used to like Biden, back in the early 90's, but am quickly coming to the conclusion that he's lost his mind.
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i find him really funny, what i hate is the lack of coverage or reporting about his gaffes ( i really hate that word now)

you've got to give him credit, he's probably the most honest guy in the white house, though no by design
 
#55
#55
SavageOrangeJug said:
Then why would a man as sharp as you claim Obama to be, pick him as a VP?
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hussein, doesn't need a smart guy. he has an agenda to tax the hell out of us and give the government for control. he could use small Mike for his VP, it wouldn't matter.
 
#56
#56
SavageOrangeJug said:
Then why would a man as sharp as you claim Obama to be, pick him as a VP?
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Foreign policy experience and my guess is that at the time and given that Obama was so far ahead in the polls, they wanted a safe pick and his negatives were probably not too bad. I mean, who else was there that would not have either overshadowed him or been some sort of a drag?

I'm not saying Biden was a bad pick, by the way. Just that at the moment he's saying some quirky things, not well thought out.
 
#57
#57
joevol320 said:
hussein, doesn't need a smart guy. he has an agenda to tax the hell out of us and give the government for control. he could use small Mike for his VP, it wouldn't matter.
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When I read gibberish like this, it just reinforces my general impression that those who would describe themselves as ultra conservative really are lacking in intellect. And in some cases in basic skills.
 
#58
#58
lawgator1 said:
When I read gibberish like this, it just reinforces my general impression that those who would describe themselves as ultra conservative really are lacking in intellect. And in some cases in basic skills.
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do you really disagree that he has an agenda to raise taxes on the rich and increase govt?
 
#59
#59
lawgator1 said:
When I read gibberish like this, it just reinforces my general impression that those who would describe themselves as ultra conservative really are lacking in intellect. And in some cases in basic skills.
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tell me where i'm wrong? he's proposed unrealist spending, he is going to tax every American with cap and trade, he's going to raise taxes on business which will be transferred to us. he's taken over banks, car companies and is control all the financial sector. tell me where i'm wrong? it is sheep like you who are lacking intellect.
 
#61
#61
droski said:
do you really disagree that he has an agenda to raise taxes on the rich and increase govt?
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See, when you put it like that, it's so unfairly perjorative.

I agree that he will raise taxes on the very, very welathiest. And I agree that on health care and some financial regulation, he will increase the size of government (though not as large as some of you seem to think).

But I do not agree that he is doing those things just for the sake of doing them.

I think he sees ending the tax breaks for the wealthiest as a) simply undoing what Bush did and which was purely political and unfair to being with, and b) necessary for revenue purposes. I mean, someone's taxes will have to go up, so why not on those who enjoyed a windfall for 8 years?

I think people are dramatically overstating the growth in the "size" of government. And I think that those overstatements are on purpose, to mislead people into thinking that major and dark and mysterious changes in their every day lives are coming soon, and that's just not true.
 
#62
#62
LG's wet dream avatar or signature..

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#63
#63
lawgator1 said:
See, when you put it like that, it's so unfairly perjorative.

I agree that he will raise taxes on the very, very welathiest. And I agree that on health care and some financial regulation, he will increase the size of government (though not as large as some of you seem to think).

But I do not agree that he is doing those things just for the sake of doing them.

I think he sees ending the tax breaks for the wealthiest as a) simply undoing what Bush did and which was purely political and unfair to being with, and b) necessary for revenue purposes. I mean, someone's taxes will have to go up, so why not on those who enjoyed a windfall for 8 years?

I think people are dramatically overstating the growth in the "size" of government. And I think that those overstatements are on purpose, to mislead people into thinking that major and dark and mysterious changes in their every day lives are coming soon, and that's just not true.
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#64
#64
lawgator1 said:
See, when you put it like that, it's so unfairly perjorative.

I agree that he will raise taxes on the very, very welathiest. And I agree that on health care and some financial regulation, he will increase the size of government (though not as large as some of you seem to think).

But I do not agree that he is doing those things just for the sake of doing them.

I think he sees ending the tax breaks for the wealthiest as a) simply undoing what Bush did and which was purely political and unfair to being with, and b) necessary for revenue purposes. I mean, someone's taxes will have to go up, so why not on those who enjoyed a windfall for 8 years?

I think people are dramatically overstating the growth in the "size" of government. And I think that those overstatements are on purpose, to mislead people into thinking that major and dark and mysterious changes in their every day lives are coming soon, and that's just not true.
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Oh i think he thinks he is doing the greater good. But that doesn't mean he doesn't think the greater good is served by raising taxes and increasing govt.

The rich already pay an overwhelming majority of taxes in this country. and obama isn't just talking about repealing teh bush tax cuts. he's talking about taking them back to pre reagan levels (as suggested by his chief economic advisor on cnbc recently).

As for your final statement i bolded I can't believe you actually believe that. Have you seen the chart of gov't expenditures since obama has taken office? as a % of gdp it's 3X higher than it has EVER BEEN. his deficit equals EVERY presidents deficit COMBINED before him (including bush).
 
#65
#65
I hope she didn't quit in order to run for president. If she were to ever end up as the republican nominee, that would be proof to me that the conservative party was officially dead.
 
#66
#66
droski said:
Oh i think he thinks he is doing the greater good. But that doesn't mean he doesn't think the greater good is served by raising taxes and increasing govt.

The rich already pay an overwhelming majority of taxes in this country. and obama isn't just talking about repealing teh bush tax cuts. he's talking about taking them back to pre reagan levels (as suggested by his chief economic advisor on cnbc recently).

As for your final statement i bolded I can't believe you actually believe that. Have you seen the chart of gov't expenditures since obama has taken office? as a % of gdp it's 3X higher than it has EVER BEEN. his deficit equals EVERY presidents deficit COMBINED before him (including bush).
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#68
#68
lawgator1 said:
See, when you put it like that, it's so unfairly perjorative.

I agree that he will raise taxes on the very, very welathiest. And I agree that on health care and some financial regulation, he will increase the size of government (though not as large as some of you seem to think).

But I do not agree that he is doing those things just for the sake of doing them.

I think he sees ending the tax breaks for the wealthiest as a) simply undoing what Bush did and which was purely political and unfair to being with, and b) necessary for revenue purposes. I mean, someone's taxes will have to go up, so why not on those who enjoyed a windfall for 8 years?

I think people are dramatically overstating the growth in the "size" of government. And I think that those overstatements are on purpose, to mislead people into thinking that major and dark and mysterious changes in their every day lives are coming soon, and that's just not true.
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You do realize that spending by the government = size of the government don't you?

You do realize that the new initiatives, centers, agencies, programs, etc. are basically open-ended commitments don't you?
 
#69
#69
lawgator1 said:
I think people are dramatically overstating the growth in the "size" of government. And I think that those overstatements are on purpose, to mislead people into thinking that major and dark and mysterious changes in their every day lives are coming soon, and that's just not true.
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if this priceless tidbit wasn't coming from you, I'd question whether or not you were serious.
 
#70
#70
volinbham said:
You do realize that spending by the government = size of the government don't you?

You do realize that the new initiatives, centers, agencies, programs, etc. are basically open-ended commitments don't you?
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You do realize that the simpletons cannot run their life without government!

Who are you to say we are not to help these people!?!
 
#72
#72
lawgator1 said:
See, when you put it like that, it's so unfairly perjorative.

I agree that he will raise taxes on the very, very welathiest. And I agree that on health care and some financial regulation, he will increase the size of government (though not as large as some of you seem to think).

But I do not agree that he is doing those things just for the sake of doing them.

I think he sees ending the tax breaks for the wealthiest as a) simply undoing what Bush did and which was purely political and unfair to being with, and b) necessary for revenue purposes. I mean, someone's taxes will have to go up, so why not on those who enjoyed a windfall for 8 years?

I think people are dramatically overstating the growth in the "size" of government. And I think that those overstatements are on purpose, to mislead people into thinking that major and dark and mysterious changes in their every day lives are coming soon, and that's just not true.
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oh really? so government controlled healthcare isn't dark? what about wanting to take a risk and starting a company?

you disagree with him on that but he's going to take control of a large part of our economy.

the fact is that hussein has seen "economic and social injustice" for all his life. or at least when he actually lived in America. he sees the way to fix it is to have the government control and not individual responsibility. he believes that will bring social just to blacks and other monorities.
 
#73
#73
In reference to the above figure, why the decrease to 2012 and then increase again, as projected by the CBO? Is the Obama administration counting cap and trade revenues that the CBO isn't?
 
#75
#75
droski said:
i believe it has to do with their social security and medicare predictions.
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It's interesting that the administration predicts those expenses to be that much different than the CBO...is that because they think that they'll significantly decrease those costs through their health information programs in the stimulus package. I doubt they really believe that...I'm just trying to figure out what they are "saying" they believe.....and why the numbers diverge after 2012.
 
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