Palin quit because ....

Palin quit because ....


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Like i've said before i hope she doesn't win the presidential nomination for the repub. party. w/ that being said, was she really overwhelmed by the governership of Alaska or was it that her legal fees for defending herself over these ridiculous ethic charges just adding up more than she can pay for? over 500k in legal fees due to the dems ethic charges is a lot of money
 
i find it funny how Obama said to leave his family out of it during the elections, which they were left out of it, but the same rules don't apply for the repub. party. sorry LG but that shows how low class a lot of liberals are
 
Why can't you use campaign funds to provide defense when the charges you are fending off have no substance outside of the position you hold? It's not like she's fighting a DUI with campaign money...she's fighting ethics charges related to her office. Is it because they stem from her time before being governor?
 
i find it funny how Obama said to leave his family out of it during the elections, which they were left out of it, but the same rules don't apply for the repub. party. sorry LG but that shows how low class a lot of liberals are


Letterman's joke is hardly the same thing as making candidate's children part of the campaign. He made his joke, got called out for it and apologized, and she kept it in the news for weeks by holding press conferences about it. Theater of the absurd.
 
People over $250,000 is I believe what Obama's plan contemplates.





Silly question. I have no idea what the numbers are. I just know that as long as you are going to have a progressive taxation system, by definition someone will be paying more (as a percentage of income) than others.

But riddle me this: Should my receptionist/bookkeeper, who is the bread winner for a family of 5 and who makes $45,000 a year, be taxed at a higher rate than she is before someone who makes $50 million a year? Assuming we needed $10,000 from one of them to pay for governmental services, education, Medicare, and what not, who do you propose we have pay that?

do you really believe he is just going to tax people over $250K?

and someone who "makes" $50 mil a year as defined by the us tax system will definetly be taxed at a higher rate than your secondary. someone who is worth $50 mil maybe, maybe not. what you are arguing is that peoples WEALTH should be taxed at a higher rate if they are wealthy. unless you want to start charging people for non realized taxable gains or something. edit: and btw every single high net worth client i have is taxed at the maximum tax rate and therefore higher than your secretary.
 
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do you really believe he is just going to tax people over $250K?

and someone who "makes" $50 mil a year as defined by the us tax system will definetly be taxed at a higher rate than your secondary. someone who is worth $50 mil maybe, maybe not. what you are arguing is that peoples WEALTH should be taxed at a higher rate if they are wealthy. unless you want to start charging people for non realized taxable gains or something. edit: and btw every single high net worth client i have is taxed at the maximum tax rate and therefore higher than your secretary.

relavance?


Your high wealth clients -- do they get taxed on income, or on the basis of what's accumulated? I assume its on income for the year.

What our progressive system theoretically recognizes is that ability to pay ought to have something to do with the taxation system. That is, if there are three people earning $50,000, $500,000, and $50 million respectively, and if we need $1 million in revenue, then we can't take it in equal amounts from each person. Nor would it make sense to tax at the same rate for each person because the effect on the lower income earner is magnified given the basic costs of existing in our economy.

Having said that, I completely agree with the premise that the tax code system is a complete mess and out of control. We give tax breaks and incentives supposedly to encourage spending and investment in areas we deem "good," but it ends up just being a giant shell game. I would agree that needs to end.

But if you want to scrap the progressive income tax system for something like Neil Boortz' flat tax based on consumption, people need to think long and hard about what that will do to spending and the placement of dollars in the world economy.
 
Letterman's joke is hardly the same thing as making candidate's children part of the campaign. He made his joke, got called out for it and apologized, and she kept it in the news for weeks by holding press conferences about it. Theater of the absurd.

not what i'm talking about, palins family was talk of the town during the election.

how is it theater of the absurd? if that was my kid i'd be furious and i'm sure you would too. now if that was them talking that way about Obama's kids i'm sure you would be speaking up about it.
 
Your high wealth clients -- do they get taxed on income, or on the basis of what's accumulated? I assume its on income for the year.

What our progressive system theoretically recognizes is that ability to pay ought to have something to do with the taxation system. That is, if there are three people earning $50,000, $500,000, and $50 million respectively, and if we need $1 million in revenue, then we can't take it in equal amounts from each person. Nor would it make sense to tax at the same rate for each person because the effect on the lower income earner is magnified given the basic costs of existing in our economy.

Having said that, I completely agree with the premise that the tax code system is a complete mess and out of control. We give tax breaks and incentives supposedly to encourage spending and investment in areas we deem "good," but it ends up just being a giant shell game. I would agree that needs to end.

But if you want to scrap the progressive income tax system for something like Neil Boortz' flat tax based on consumption, people need to think long and hard about what that will do to spending and the placement of dollars in the world economy.

so are you arguing they should be taxed on wealth accumulated? do you want to tax unrealized taxable gains?

as for the progressive tax it's already extremely punitive. raising the maximum tax rate woudl flat out discourage investment and would encourage tax schemes (as it did during carter's presidency). Reagan eliminated most of these tax loopholes. This theory that it's easy for the rich to avoid taxes is flat out ridiculous.

the only downside of boortz's model is the black market issue.
 
Weren't you saying that the system isn't progressive a few posts back?


Not that I am aware of.


not what i'm talking about, palins family was talk of the town during the election.

how is it theater of the absurd? if that was my kid i'd be furious and i'm sure you would too. now if that was them talking that way about Obama's kids i'm sure you would be speaking up about it.


Its a shame that Palin's daughter became a story, I'll agree. But let's face facts. If you run as a conservative with a significant religious component in your campaign, having a pregnant teenage daughter is going to get talked about. I can't say that it really matters to her ability to do the job, but its a reality that the perception will be that its hypocritical.

I'm not saying that's fair. I'm saying that's the perception.
 
Was Palin really running on that much of a religious platform?


Where were you during the campaign? Hell, yes she was!


oh i know what ur saying LG, but i'm saying that it should've never been brought up.


Its not fair since its not Palin's "fault," but there was no way to avoid it. What was most damaging was the fact that it evidently either was not learned by the McCain people ahead of time and/or was withheld from them by Palin and her folks.
 
Was Palin really running on that much of a religious platform?

No. I think the truth of the matter was that she was defined by her opponents before she had a chance to defend herself. When she did get a chance, she blew it.

All the stories about banning books, dinosaurs, etc. were propagated by her opponents and they stuck.

I think she's a lightweight but think the perception of her is overly skewed.
 
Where were you during the campaign? Hell, yes she was!

What was the religious platform?





Its not fair since its not Palin's "fault," but there was no way to avoid it. What was most damaging was the fact that it evidently either was not learned by the McCain people ahead of time and/or was withheld from them by Palin and her folks.

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exhibit a: that the only people who care about palin are democrats

i agree w/ droski, they are obsessed


I think the reaction she gets, both from the left and from those on the right that have the cajones to admit they don't think she's remotely qualified, is that we are all just dumbfounded that anyone ever really thought she could win.
 

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