Parents With Little Screaming Kids

[VOLatile]

This...

I understand it... I've got kids. I guess I was lucky. Both mine act like they are supposed to act. Mind their manners and pay attention.

My peeve with it is much like the rest of yours I'm sure, the parents actions. ( or lack there of)

Is the child in this situation a special needs child maybe? Maybe that is why the mother lashed out violently so quickly.

I often watch my cousin's two children. I'm spoiled by them. They are the most thoughtful, caring, and polite children I've ever met. No fighting between the two. They clean up after themselves and sometimes will clean my apartment with me. They can carry on an intelligent conversation with me. They're 5 and 8.

I hate every other child in the world.

 

[GVF]

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No, I consider them linked. Both places are professional environments that children should be behaved in. And if the parents are not going to control their children, someone can and should say something about it. Now I obviously didn't reach the &quot;go to hell&quot; level. But had the mother and aunt persisted in not leaving, it would have gotten ugly on my part.</p>
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<p>Either way, both places are businesses and both places have others that can, and likely will, be annoyed by disruptive children. Whether that's potential employees or customers doesn't matter. A parent not controlling their child surely does matter.

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<p>There is a professional difference. Neither showed enough respect to you as both an employer and potential employer. Also, if child care cannot be arranged in order to fill out an application and interview, then what will the attendance be like. If she is allowing her child to act like this in your place of business while she is asking for a job, what will her work ethic and professionalism be like. And there was nothing nut patience in the way you handled it. I think you allowed more than you had to.</p>

 

[hog88]

Glass optional.

Prevented a child killing a time or two.

 

[Grand Vol]

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Prevented a child killing a time or two.

Negavol.

Tennessee's best or nothing.

 

[hog88]

Negavol.

Tennessee's best or nothing.

Ehh, KY is good for something.

 

[GVF]

Don't even get me started on single baby mommas...

They made that choice on their own.

Yep. If you go that road to keep those entitlement checks rolling in, I got no sympathy.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I have done it before in public as well. The main difference is the woman in the check out line is a bully. Plain and simple. She picked a weak target to attack after she spoke her mind.

Change the paradigm to a woman of equal size or a man saying the same thing and I can flat guarantee you the attacker would have been on her merry way.

That's really what it boils down to.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I feel like even if the kid was well behaved, it would be a huge red flag for me. If she can't find child care so she can interview, is she gonna be able to find it so she can work?

It sucks because I totally sympathize with her but at the same time if I'm running a business I can't have an employee who regularly misses work due to child care issues.

You are going to catch hell for this comment, but you are 110% correct.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Although those of you who feel entitled to tell others how to control their children probably won't understand or appreciate this, I will offer my thoughts on controlling/disciplining a child.

Many of you with more than one child know that each one is different. I have a 10 year-old daughter and a 4 year-old son. With my daughter, anytime she was testing her boundaries, a single-swat spanking would put her on the right track for a good, long while (like, for a month or two).

However, my son was born 6-weeks premature, has been diagnosed with various anxiety and hyperactivity disorders, and is just barely on this side of mild autism. When he is ready to test his boundaries, there is no amount of physical discipline that would correct his behavior (and, if I tried it in a checkout line, I'd have people griping at me for "abusing" my child). It just doesn't work. There have been a few times where I've had him with me, needed to stop at the local grocery store, and he has flat out lost it. No one has ever said anything to me, but I've gotten plenty of the looks you all have talked about. The thing is, as others have pointed out, I want him to stop just as much (more, actually) than you. There is literally nothing I can do at that point except to leave the situation.

Now, I'm not saying that the child in this incident has the same issues as my son. But, when I encounter an unruly child now, my wife and I exchange a knowing glance at each other and feel a measure of sympathy for the parent.

So, you all can now feel free to let me know that I'm just too soft, don't know how to parent my child, or that he just needs a swift "kick in the ass". Hopefully, though, this is able to enlighten some of you.

Wait... just stop. With all due respect, you know good and well that the majority of the kids we are talking about out here are not mentally challenged or have some sort of disorder. We all know what kids we are talking about... these are healthy, normal kids that were raised in pizz poor households. Are there a few that may have some problems? Sure, no reasonable person will not admit that. But don't come here and try to sell me on the notion that the people areound an annoying child have some obligation to assume that your misbehaving child has some kind of disorder.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I have an autistic son as well, but he doesn't have meltdowns or anything. Quite the opposite, as he is very quiet and shy. That said, there are other battles, so good luck and God bless to you.
Posters here evidently suggest you don't bring your son anywhere and leave him at home. Never listen to that **** and tell them to shut the **** up.

Or go to hell?

 

[Spartacavolus]

Ras, you have no ****ing idea if a kid has an issue or not. You aren't a parent. You don't work with kids. You don't know anything about children. In other words, uneducated and ignorant, so don't act like you know if a child has a problem or not. Stupid and arrogant. Bad combo.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ras, you have no ****ing idea if a kid has an issue or not. You aren't a parent. You don't work with kids. You don't know anything about children. In other words, uneducated and ignorant, so don't act like you know if a child has a problem or not. Stupid and arrogant. Bad combo.

You are 100% right.. I have no idea. But I also know that the overwhelming amjority of kids out here are not kids with "issues". they are kids with bad parents or kids that do not know how to behave in various settings (which again goes back to the parenting). Again, don't make the exception the rule and then expect everyone on the outside looking in to assume that your kid is that 1 in 10 that has a legit medical issue that affects their behavior. The fact that this hoodrat went out of her way to chase someone down in the parking lot tells me all i need to know about the environment that the kid was living in. No structure. No restarint. No control.

 

[Weezer]

yeah, that's not what I've said at all. This has gone over your head and I try to stop discussions when someone isn't following along or just makes up **** for the hell of it.

I could give a flip what you think about it. You are probably the guy that would run your mouth and get your ass whipped by a pissed off "uncivilized animal", then cry about it not being fair, while I laugh my ass off and video it.

Sparty, I've known you to be an intelligent poster and from many posts I've read, you seem like a great and loving dad. I'm not trying to make this some sort of personal attack on you, though you seem to want to throw a few shots my way. That's fine. I'm thick-skinned and can take it.

Now, your first quoted post is responding that you never said the beating was deserved. Your second quoted post contains another(of several) reference to how you would laugh your ass off if you saw it happen. Laughing about it implies you would condone it. So you'll pardon my confusion, because you seem to be saying two separate things. Do you think the mother was wrong, or would you laugh at the lady getting beat down by the mom? If you're going to laugh at it, you must not think it too wrong.

 

[Coug]

Just so we're clear are we drinking the whiskey ourselves or giving it to the unruly kids.... or both?

 

[Cdywolfe]

Sparty, I've known you to be an intelligent poster and from many posts I've read, you seem like a great and loving dad. I'm not trying to make this some sort of personal attack on you, though you seem to want to throw a few shots my way. That's fine. I'm thick-skinned and can take it.

Now, your first quoted post is responding that you never said the beating was deserved. Your second quoted post contains another(of several) reference to how you would laugh your ass off if you saw it happen. Laughing about it implies you would condone it. So you'll pardon my confusion, because you seem to be saying two separate things. Do you think the mother was wrong, or would you laugh at the lady getting beat down by the mom? If you're going to laugh at it, you must not think it too wrong.

I know right… He claims to condemn this lady's actions but the majority of his posts are blatant contradictions of that stance.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Sparty, I've known you to be an intelligent poster and from many posts I've read, you seem like a great and loving dad. I'm not trying to make this some sort of personal attack on you, though you seem to want to throw a few shots my way. That's fine. I'm thick-skinned and can take it.

Now, your first quoted post is responding that you never said the beating was deserved. Your second quoted post contains another(of several) reference to how you would laugh your ass off if you saw it happen. Laughing about it implies you would condone it. So you'll pardon my confusion, because you seem to be saying two separate things. Do you think the mother was wrong, or would you laugh at the lady getting beat down by the mom? If you're going to laugh at it, you must not think it too wrong.

If I see somebody with an attitude get knocked out, I think it can be damn funny. Would I think that mom knocking that girl out was funny? Nah. Not humorous. Would I think a mouthy dude *****ing about a kid in a checkout line being too loud and telling someone to go to hell, then getting knocked out would be funny? Well yes, I do. At times, when somebody is asking for it, gets it, it brings joy.
And I didn't throw any shots. You totally made something up and decided to try and put stances on me and words in my mouth. I don't like when that happens. It means you didn't get the point or were purposefully changing what was actually posted. I have no beef with you, but at no time said the mom shouldn't be punished or did the right thing or said it was justified, so don't say that I did.

 

[Spartacavolus]

I know right… He claims to condemn this lady's actions but the majority of his posts are blatant contradictions of that stance.

I didn't condemn her actions either. Didn't praise or condemn. Maybe you should go somewhere where it's easier to follow along. Xbox discussion is in the gaming thread. And if you think it's ok for you to tell a mom to go to hell without possible repurcussion, you don't need to be in public anyway.

 

[hog88]

Just so we're clear are we drinking the whiskey ourselves or giving it to the unruly kids.... or both?

Whatever produces the desired results.

 

[Coug]

Whatever produces the desired results.

 

[Weezer]

I'm sure that arrogant skinny beotch was really polite in the line as she told the lady to quiet her child and go to hell.
There are times to speak and times to not. This was a good time for an I'm annoyed at you stare, but a great time to keep your mouth shut for a few seconds. Or you tell somebody to go to hell and get knocked tf out. Her choice.

lady shouldn't have knocked her out. But when you run your mouth and tell somebody to go to hell (somebody that might have bigger personal issues going on than skinny girl is having), I understand it 100%. You don't speak to people that way, especially when there is a child involved. You just told that childs mom to go to hell in earshot of the kid. If you get something in return, you had it coming to you. If you don't want it, swallow your silly pride and attitude for 5 minutes, get in your car, then cuss the lady to yourself.
Final Answer

Do you have children?

And as to your question, stay out of other parent/kid issues, especially in a line checking out a few items. I wouldn't get violent, but if I was sitting there and heard you run your mouth and saw you get knocked out for it, I'd laugh at both of you.
I"m more of a get your license plate # and screw with you once I find out who you are and where you live.

Trying to see your point, but it's flying above my head. I don't see how any words justify a physical attack. Sure, maybe the girl should have said nothing, but the fact that she did doesn't make it okay for the mother to attack her. What kind of lesson does that teach the child? It's okay to beat on people who disrespect you? Teacher makes you look dumb in class, beat the hell out of him/her. That makes no sense. Poor judgement may have been used on both sides, but one side used poorer judgement.

I've not tried to put any words in your mouth. Above is a sampling of some of your posts and my initial response.

The words I've responded to have come from your own posts. I agree with you that the lady should have kept her mouth shut. Where I disagree is the expressed sentiment that she somehow got what was coming to her.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Good freaking gracious, how is it not clear. You run your mouth to somebody, especially about their kid, and especially verbally assaulting a parent in front of a child, you open the door. It's not that damned difficult to understand. And the mouthier a person, the less I care what the reaction is from the person on the other end.

 

[Weezer]

Like you said, over your head.

whatever. It appears my common sense level is on a different level than yours. Next time, in that situation, if you want to tell a mom to go to hell, feel free.
I will sing "it's all about that base, bout that base, no treble" for @ a minute in my head, check out and drive away with my teeth in tact and no sign of a self absorbed ego that would require me to give said mom my opinion.

These responses felt like shots. Maybe I'm being oversensitive, but they seemed to call my intelligence and common sense into question. Not to mention you insinuate I'm okay with telling a mom to go to hell despite me clearly saying I didn't agree with it. And I've been pretty clear about it, not saying it was wrong but I'd laugh if I saw it, or the mom had it coming.

I get some people like to turn this into a pissing contest so it's easy to get your dander up, but I'm not looking to see who hangs lower. I'm just trying to have a conversation.

 

[Weezer]

Good freaking gracious, how is it not clear. You run your mouth to somebody, especially about their kid, and especially verbally assaulting a parent in front of a child, you open the door. It's not that damned difficult to understand. And the mouthier a person, the less I care what the reaction is from the person on the other end.

I'll agree that you open the door to a return verbal assault, but you don't open the door to an ass-beating.

 

[vol_in_ar]

Good freaking gracious, how is it not clear. You run your mouth to somebody, especially about their kid, and especially verbally assaulting a parent in front of a child, you open the door. It's not that damned difficult to understand. And the mouthier a person, the less I care what the reaction is from the person on the other end.

I think the issue is most folks have an issue with words, that cause a physical confrontation....

The skinny lady was probably a beetch in the way she addressed the mom, but she still shouldn't have been attacked in the parking lot

 

[Weezer]

I think the issue is most folks have an issue with words, that cause a physical confrontation....

The skinny lady was probably a beetch in the way she addressed the mom, but she still shouldn't have been attacked in the parking lot

Exactly. If the mom had unleashed a tongue-lashing of her own, I'd be in agreement that the lady got what she deserved. Escalating it to a physical assault is where I have the problem.