Parents With Little Screaming Kids

[Spartacavolus]

I think the issue is most folks have an issue with words, that cause a physical confrontation....

The skinny lady was probably a beetch in the way she addressed the mom, but she still shouldn't have been attacked in the parking lot

And never have I posted that she should have been. Simply that it was in the girl's hands to control the situation, but instead she decided to tell a mom to go to hell. When you open a door for an idiot to create a worse situation, that's on you. It's called personal accountability, and nobody wants to claim it anymore. They want to blame it on the "uncivilized animal", or "hoodrat", but want no responsibility for causing the problem, while expecting and uneducated idiot to act responsibly.

 

[vol_in_ar]

but the lady with the kid was the one that was responsible for the physical attack

 

[Spartacavolus]

but the lady with the kid was the one that was responsible for the physical attack

If some guy walks up to you at the ky game with your kid, tells you to shut your kid up and to go to hell, that person potentially created a problem and the reaction could be anything from turning and walking away to fighting. It is what it is, so the lesson is that if you are going to run your mouth to somebody, you open up the door to get knocked out. Right or wrong. Deserved or not.

 

[hog88]

If some guy walks up to you at the ky game with your kid, tells you to shut your kid up and to go to hell, that person potentially created a problem and the reaction could be anything from turning and walking away to fighting. It is what it is, so the lesson is that if you are going to run your mouth to somebody, you open up the door to get knocked out. Right or wrong. Deserved or not.

And I would set the example I'd want my kid to follow, let azzholes be azzholes and walk away.

 

[Weezer]

If some guy walks up to you at the ky game with your kid, tells you to shut your kid up and to go to hell, that person potentially created a problem and the reaction could be anything from turning and walking away to fighting. It is what it is, so the lesson is that if you are going to run your mouth to somebody, you open up the door to get knocked out. Right or wrong. Deserved or not.

I'd turn it into an object lesson on what idiocy is, and what it looks like. Now, if the other guy throws the first punch, I'll defend myself, but I become the idiot if I escalate it to a physical nature.

 

[Coug]

If some guy walks up to you at the ky game with your kid, tells you to shut your kid up and to go to hell, that person potentially created a problem and the reaction could be anything from turning and walking away to fighting. It is what it is, so the lesson is that if you are going to run your mouth to somebody, you open up the door to get knocked out. Right or wrong. Deserved or not.

You're clearly standing alone in whatever point it is you're trying to make.

 

[vol_in_ar]

If some guy walks up to you at the ky game with your kid, tells you to shut your kid up and to go to hell, that person potentially created a problem and the reaction could be anything from turning and walking away to fighting. It is what it is, so the lesson is that if you are going to run your mouth to somebody, you open up the door to get knocked out. Right or wrong. Deserved or not.

until they put their hands on my kids or myself
I'm not attacking them

if they touch me, my son or daughter all hell's gonna break loose


I'll agree that the skinny lady, could have handled it better and comes across in the interview as smug, but until someone touches you or threatens you with violence, you can't go around attacking people

 

[Coug]

until they put their hands on my kids or myself
I'm not attacking them

if they touch me, my son or daughter all hell's gonna break loose


I'll agree that the skinny lady, could have handled it better and comes across in the interview as smug, but until someone touches you or threatens you with violence, you can't go around attacking people

But... but... she told me to "go to hell", doesn't that mean I can stalk her into the parking lot and assault her?

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

until they put their hands on my kids or myself
I'm not attacking them

if they touch me, my son or daughter all hell's gonna break loose


I'll agree that the skinny lady, could have handled it better and comes across in the interview as smug, but until someone touches you or threatens you with violence, you can't go around attacking people

Regardless of if she could have handled it better, if she would have kept her mouth shut and let well enough alone, the situation would have never presented itself to either party. If you don't know what kind of day someone else is having, don't say a word about their kid being loud, as you may be tearing down the last shred of patience they have down. You can't run your mouth, and then play victim when someone whoops your ass.

 

[Spartacavolus]

You're clearly standing alone in whatever point it is you're trying to make.

that's normal. I'm usually thinking and looking at different views, while others that debate are limited to whatever they think their point is. You can't understand that your dumb or arrogant actions may open the door for an idiot to react in a way that you don't think is fair. I understand that much. Maybe you find out the hard way one day, so by all means, tell kids to shutup and tell mothers or fathers to go to hell in front of their kids. Just remember this thread if somebody kicks your ass in the process and ask yourself if your words were worth it.

 

[Spartacavolus]

until they put their hands on my kids or myself
I'm not attacking them

if they touch me, my son or daughter all hell's gonna break loose


I'll agree that the skinny lady, could have handled it better and comes across in the interview as smug, but until someone touches you or threatens you with violence, you can't go around attacking people

why do a few of you have difficulty understanding that not all people will react the way you mention? The mom has been called a hoodrat and uncivilized animal by some here, yet she's expected to act like you would after a verbal assault in front of her kid in an obviously already tense situation?
You are focused on the wrong thing. I didn't ever say it was right or just that she was attacked or that I would act the way the mom did. I'd never fight in front of a kid unless it was a necessity to defend us. I simply have said when you open that door, don't be surprised if the other person shoves it open and violence ensues. Violence has no chance in that situation if someone doesn't run their mouth. Period.

 

[Spartacavolus]

But... but... she told me to "go to hell", doesn't that mean I can stalk her into the parking lot and assault her?

this is over your head, so go to another thread. If you don't understand that people react differently to situations, that's your problem borne of stupidity or naivety or both. Or again, go run your mouth to @ a dozen people today and get your ass kicked, then come back here and whine about how it wasn't fair.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Regardless of if she could have handled it better, if she would have kept her mouth shut and let well enough alone, the situation would have never presented itself to either party. If you don't know what kind of day someone else is having, don't say a word about their kid being loud, as you may be tearing down the last shred of patience they have down. You can't run your mouth, and then play victim when someone whoops your ass.

it seems so basic to me. I don't understand how that common sense and intellectual thought process is hard to understand. Because the mom shouldn't have attacked? Of course she shouldn't have, but how many "shouldn't have been violent" situations happen on a daily basis in this Country? 1000's? Millions? And how many could have been prevented by the person being attacked? No telling.

 

[Cdywolfe]

What a find absolutely hilarious are those of you who apparently think this lady walked up to the mom and was like "Hey... Tell your little turd to shut their mouth and while you're at, GO TO HELL."

I obviously wasn't there but if I had to lay a paycheck down on which one of these two pushed this situation passed a completely civil encounter, I think I would bet on the idiot who follows people out in to parking lots and assaults them.

 

[Spartacavolus]

What a find absolutely hilarious are those of you who apparently think this lady walked up to the mom and was like "Hey... Tell your little turd to shut their mouth and while you're at, GO TO HELL."

I obviously wasn't there but if I had to lay a paycheck down on which one of these two pushed this situation passed a completely civil encounter, I think I would bet on the idiot who follows people out in to parking lots and assaults them.

We only know what the victim stated, which was something the the affect that the kid was "hurting her ears", that she asked the mom to "control" her child, then told the mom to "go to hell" after she responded. All in a checkout line over just a couple of minutes. Seeing the smugness/arrogance of the victim's attitude during the interview leads me to guess that she wasn't polite or nice in the least, which with among her words, led to giving an idiot a reason to attack.

 

[hog88]

Regardless of if she could have handled it better, if she would have kept her mouth shut and let well enough alone, the situation would have never presented itself to either party. If you don't know what kind of day someone else is having, don't say a word about their kid being loud, as you may be tearing down the last shred of patience they have down. You can't run your mouth, and then play victim when someone whoops your ass.

True dat! Say the thug!

 

[Cdywolfe]

Spartacavolus... We're not discussing advanced thermodynamics here. It requires no advanced intellectual thought process and certainly isn't going over anybody's head. Get over yourself man. Everybody understands exactly what you're saying, it's not as if it's complicated. We (or at least I) just completely disagree with the level of blame you appear to place on the victim.

Also... When every time you mention that the lady shouldn't have attacked her it's followed by a but and all the reasons she had it coming, most people are going to assume that you don't have that big of a problem with it.

Yes… Many people are animals and as a result you should probably watch what you say to strangers because you really don't ever know who you're dealing with. With that said when one of those animals decides to attack somebody, my first thought isn't to point out how big of an idiot the victim is for "provoking" them.

Although you and I are living on completely different planets if you feel like asking someone to quiet their child is provoking them.

 

[Chuckie]

You are 100% right.. I have no idea. But I also know that the overwhelming amjority of kids out here are not kids with "issues". they are kids with bad parents or kids that do not know how to behave in various settings (which again goes back to the parenting). Again, don't make the exception the rule and then expect everyone on the outside looking in to assume that your kid is that 1 in 10 that has a legit medical issue that affects their behavior. The fact that this hoodrat went out of her way to chase someone down in the parking lot tells me all i need to know about the environment that the kid was living in. No structure. No restarint. No control.

So, based on your logic, then, I should be willing to accept a verbal and/or non-verbal "go to hell" when my child is out of sorts...because most kids that act this way have bad parents. Is that what you are saying?

I'm not making a judgment on this situation because none of us knows what might be going on with this child. My original comments were more for general consumption...not intended as a barometer for how you should judge this shopping line incident.

 

[hog88]

So, based on your logic, then, I should be willing to accept a verbal and/or non-verbal "go to hell" when my child is out of sorts...because most kids that act this way have bad parents. Is that what you are saying?

I'm not making a judgment on this situation because none of us knows what might be going on with this child. My original comments were more for general consumption...not intended as a barometer for how you should judge this shopping line incident.

No you shouldn't accept it but use it as an opportunity to set an example for your kid.

 

[utvolpj]

You are 100% right.. I have no idea. But I also know that the overwhelming amjority of kids out here are not kids with "issues". they are kids with bad parents or kids that do not know how to behave in various settings (which again goes back to the parenting).

You may think you know that but you would be completely wrong.

 

[Chuckie]

No you shouldn't accept it but use it as an opportunity to set an example for your kid.

What example would that be? I am a strong proponent of turning the other cheek. As others have said, though, there are lots of cases where the parent dealing with that child has had their nerves shredded and are in no position to react rationally to someone telling them how to handle the situation.

 

[utvolpj]

No you shouldn't accept it but use it as an opportunity to set an example for your kid.

I would definitely use it to let my kids see how to treat smug little hipster chicks who comment on my parenting skills. It would prepare them to chant at Alabama or Florida from the student section

 

[hog88]

What example would that be? I am a strong proponent of turning the other cheek. As others have said, though, there are lots of cases where the parent dealing with that child has had their nerves shredded and are in no position to react rationally to someone telling them how to handle the situation.

The example of not losing your cool and resorting to violence over words.

If you're kid has you so frazzled you lose control and start swinging over words, it's time to take a break.

 

[Spartacavolus]

You may think you know that but you would be completely wrong.

1 in 13 kids is on a psychiatric drug. Outrageous #'s.

And yes cdw, we do live differently. I think whomever butts into a mom's business with her child in a checkup line is a dumbass. You may think it's acceptable. I disagree. Maybe you will find out the hard way one day. I'm not at risk for that.

 

[Coug]

this is over your head, so go to another thread. If you don't understand that people react differently to situations, that's your problem borne of stupidity or naivety or both. Or again, go run your mouth to @ a dozen people today and get your ass kicked, then come back here and whine about how it wasn't fair.

I'm not sure if you're just a completely irrational person or you're just trolling. You claim to not be on the hoodrats side but then you turn around and say the white chic got what she deserved. You're constantly contradicting yourself.