Paris Terror Attack Underway

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tim said:
Im sure he has more info that would pale in comparison.
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As I'm sure you do as well. The problem being in the information flow downward is not always what it needs to be. This isn't a slam on your work or comrades Tim, but you know information that would be helpful doesn't always make it to the lower levels.

Even after 9/11 the "need to know" spouted by so many federal agencies as an excuse to close hold information made it harder for local and state levels to do their jobs.
 
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MercyPercy said:
What specifically have I said in this thread that led you to this conclusion? Or are you just throwing another tantrum because you can't have an adult discussion?
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Lol. Repeatedly saying the word 'tantrum' doesn't put you on an intellectual pedestal. If anything it shows how dishonest you are playing the martyr role here. I guess you were having an adult conversation when you referred to me as a paranoid schizophrenic. If you want to have honest dialogue kill it with trying to repeatedly label someone as doing something so you can achieve some sort of imaginary edge in your own head. Can't have it both ways.
 
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Grand Vol said:
And these terrorists that just murdered 150 people didn't suffer the same mentality? This wasn't a lone gunman type of act. This was a coordinated attack with plenty of support prior to the incident.
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I'm pretty sure Huff knows they're the bad guys, just pointing out that setting fires to refugee camps and thinking it's "good" is embracing that same irrational hatred, lust for violence, and desire to harm innocents that these scumbags believe in.

I mean, "Fire cleanses." Really? Doesn't that sound like something an ISIS member would say when asked why they burn people alive in cages? Aren't we different than that?
 
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Burhead said:
A French train has been derailed near Strasbourg. Five killed, 7 wounded and word yet if it's terrorist related.
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And this is what they want. They want fear in the public each and every time something happens in the world regardless of whether it was an accident or an attack. They want people afraid to go outside. They want to fundamentally change the mentality of people from feeling safe to one of fear of the unknown.

They are winning.
 
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Grand Vol said:
As I'm sure you do as well. The problem being in the information flow downward is not always what it needs to be. This isn't a slam on your work or comrades Tim, but you know information that would be helpful doesn't always make it to the lower levels.

Even after 9/11 the "need to know" spouted by so many federal agencies as an excuse to close hold information made it harder for local and state levels to do their jobs.
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If I'm a terrorist, I'm not going to go to a big city and set up. Too much focus on them. I'm going to rural America and set up. Less surveillance capabilities and smaller populations mean I can avoid detection easily
 
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Grand Vol said:
And this is what they want. They want fear in the public each and every time something happens in the world regardless of whether it was an accident or an attack. They want people afraid to go outside. They want to fundamentally change the mentality of people from feeling safe to one of fear of the unknown.

They are winning.
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Perhaps we need to develop safe spaces.

Also, fundamentally change.... Yes you're right and I've heard that before...
 
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MercyPercy said:
I'm pretty sure Huff knows they're the bad guys, just pointing out that setting fires to refugee camps and thinking it's "good" is embracing that same irrational hatred, lust for violence, and desire to harm innocents that these scumbags believe in.

I mean, "Fire cleanses." Really? Doesn't that sound like something an ISIS member would say when asked why they burn people alive in cages? Aren't we different than that?
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Fire.....cool!
 
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Their strategy is very effective. Attach themselves to the Muslims like a parasite that can't be extracted without inflicting great pain to the host. This makes it easy to recruit. Keep lashing out at civilized societies until they begin punishing Muslims just for being Muslims. All Muslims will join them at that point for self-preservation and their goals will be met, total world chaos. Couple of more events like this and we are there.
 
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sanddune50 said:
You have your opinion, I have mine.
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Thanks, I wasn't aware.

I see all kinds of connections with his Dad being a Muslim from Kenya, to his half brother being in the Muslim brotherhood. He still couldn't bring himself to utter the words 'Islamic terrorists' last night even though Paris had already established who it was that orchestrated the attacks. He wants to bring in 10,000 Syrian refugees, who could be ISIS or anybody, in this country in 2016.
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Confirmation bias.

If this is all the "proof" you require to form your opinion, you are easily manipulated. Nothing in this short paragraph suggests your claim is anything other than paranoid ramblings.

He bashes Isreal. He bashes Christians(even though he supposedly is one from his time with good ole hate mongering Reverend Jeremiah Wright) and misrepresent what happened in the Crusades. He's on video reciting verses of the Qu'ran and babbling on incorrectly about Muslims accomplishments. This is the same reprogramming and rewriting of history that has been going on the last 25 years. He is a big proponent of Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' and was quoted as saying he embraces the concepts. I could go on and on.
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Ah, now we're getting to what really grinds your gears. The religious aspect of it. Because he doesn't put Christians up on a high enough pedestal for you, or doesn't love "isreal" enough, you feel like a persecuted Christian. I suspected the underlying theme of Christianity vs. Islam influenced your emotions a great deal, and I was correct.

You call it an extreme take fueled by emotion. I call it examining the facts and making an informed statement. This isn't me regurgitating a media witchhunt. This is me doing my due diligence and putting 2+2 together and getting 4. You can believe what you want, call me radical, whatever. It means nothing to me what you think. I just find it disheartening that so many people take the lazy approach of vetting these people running for position's of power before putting them in office. The right to vote comes along with a responsibility to know what your voting for, not just a bunch of clueless famous people using the buddy system clamoring for people to pick their guy to further their own clueless agenda.
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I bet you watch Bigfoot shows or Ancient aliens and put 2+2 together there as well. That's just an indication of your deduction and reasoning skills.
 
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CountVolcula said:
If I'm a terrorist, I'm not going to go to a big city and set up. Too much focus on them. I'm going to rural America and set up. Less surveillance capabilities and smaller populations mean I can avoid detection easily
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I saw a group of Muslims at a shooting range in Sevierville a few months back. Everyone in there knew they were there for the wrong reasons. They had two 14 year old boys with them as well and this was on a school day. Then a week later the Seviere County Sherriff made a comment that Muslim women had been hanging out at the outlet malls but not doing any shopping or interacting and that they were clearly casing the area.

We will get hit again. My fear is they will use the kids to shoot up a school.
 
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sanddune50 said:
Lol. Repeatedly saying the word 'tantrum' doesn't put you on an intellectual pedestal. If anything it shows how dishonest you are playing the martyr role here. I guess you were having an adult conversation when you referred to me as a paranoid schizophrenic. If you want to have honest dialogue kill it with trying to repeatedly label someone as doing something so you can achieve some sort of imaginary edge in your own head. Can't have it both ways.
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I don't have to do anything to give myself an edge, your rant about Obama being a secret agent saboteur speaks for itself. If you want to be taken seriously, act like a serious adult.
 
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MercyPercy said:
I'm pretty sure Huff knows they're the bad guys, just pointing out that setting fires to refugee camps and thinking it's "good" is embracing that same irrational hatred, lust for violence, and desire to harm innocents that these scumbags believe in.

I mean, "Fire cleanses." Really? Doesn't that sound like something an ISIS member would say when asked why they burn people alive in cages? Aren't we different than that?
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Huff also believes in live and let live. Non-interventionist standing of the United States. A world without borders. So on and so forth.

And he's all about individual rights. And if individuals gather up to take matters into their own hands when their government has failed, he says it's a bad thing. Let me go ahead and say France, Germany, the UK and even the US are bringing this on themselves. And many others. We have allowed thousands of so called refugees into the nations without even one thought of what their backgrounds were. All we know is they came from a war torn country where front lines don't exist. It's impossible to tell friend from foe save their word for it.

And with some reports of 90% of them being military aged men, that's a recipe for disaster. We know ISIS has publicly stated they want to attack targets in the Western world. And the governments basically opened the doors and threw out the welcome mat for them. So when individuals have had enough of their government basically inviting attacks on our own soil, it's not a mob mentality. It's called the people actually standing up for what they believe in after they get tired of their governments failing.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Islamic doctrine has many faults. Not sure what that picture has to do with that I said, but I guess reading comprehension never was your forte.
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It fits perfectly with your alleged Muslim paranoia/ secret agent conspiracies . Just because you choose to keep your head buried doesn't mean the rest of us are as well.
 
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davethevol said:
I saw a group of Muslims at a shooting range in Sevierville a few months back. Everyone in there knew they were there for the wrong reasons. They had two 14 year old boys with them as well and this was on a school day. Then a week later the Seviere County Sherriff made a comment that Muslim women had been hanging out at the outlet malls but not doing any shopping or interacting and that they were clearly casing the area.

We will get hit again. My fear is they will use the kids to shoot up a school.
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If they're going to do so, they will. It's critical that We don't give up any of our freedoms in the name of a delusional "safety".
 
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MercyPercy said:
I wondered how long it would take for Secret Agent Muslim Obama to come up. Purposefully destroying America so the Muslims can take over.

I wonder how many of you guys would be clinically diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia?
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The Nazis loved people like you and LG.
 
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Toujours Pret said:
If they're going to do so, they will. It's critical that We don't give up any of our freedoms in the name of a delusional "safety".
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I saw the mention of a Reagan speech from around 64 that would apply to this situation. We should approach this from a "peace or war" perspective but from a "fight to survive or die" perspective. It's time to end this, and yo start we simply close all borders to Muslim countries.
 
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CountVolcula said:
If I'm a terrorist, I'm not going to go to a big city and set up. Too much focus on them. I'm going to rural America and set up. Less surveillance capabilities and smaller populations mean I can avoid detection easily
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To an extent. I live in a somewhat rural area and the neighbors knew exactly who I was within a week of me moving in. Same for my best friend that lives in a house that includes the directions "turn off paved road." The neighbors scoped him out within a few days.

Double edged sword. Rural folks are naturally suspicious and aren't afraid to go and ask pointedly who you are and how come you moved out into this neck of the woods. And keep a close eye on you in the meantime.

Larger cities certainly may offer greater surveillance and detection capabilities, but they also tend to offer sympathetic populations that can conceal you easier. And it's far easier to lose surveillance in such a place as assets are typically fairly thin.
 
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