Paris Terror Attack Underway

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MercyPercy said:
I'm not sure how else it was supposed to be taken.
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As with a great many things in this life, a grain of salt.

After 9/11 I remember seeing the Palestinians cheering and celebrating in the streets. And I was so overcome with anger that my first thought was "kill them all." Of course, VN wasn't around at that time to voice my resentment, but the thought was there. But just a thought.

Fast forward to the times I was in the Middle East, armed with an automatic weapon and had crowds of Muslim men and women in front of me. Some of which undoubtedly had a hatred of America. Yet did I open fire? No.

Grain of salt Mercy.
 
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Grand Vol said:
**** your relax statements. You are in way over your head here with your limited knowledge and complete lack of understanding of anything related to what's going on.

So sure, we could be cold and reserved and not do a damn thing. Absolutely. It's not like the French didn't support us after 9/11 or send in support after Hurricane Katrina or any number of times in our past. But they did because it's what friends do. And in turn Americans remember that friendship and show their support.

Please just shut up and bow out of this conversation for your own sake. You have no idea what you're talking about nor have the mental capacity to offer anything of substance to the debate here.
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What qualifies you to take another poster's words out of context, to attack another poster for calling you out on it or to posture yourself as some all knowing expert on a shooting that is less than 24 hrs old halfway around the world?
 
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#503
Locate the source of the problem. Immediately send weaponry to those who actually have the guts to fight ISIS in Kurdistan. Authorize the use of force. Announce the suspension of the Geneva Convention because it should never, ever apply to a terrorist group like ISIS. Issue ROE protecting our combat troops to the fullest extent and offer no quarter to the enemy.

This isn't kill all Muslims. But the "containment" approach of this President and the European allies has not worked and has only served to provide a base in Europe and perhaps the United States for complex terrorist attacks against innocent people.

Time for the Jacksonian approach. Time to provide ISIS with the full meaning of Sherman's phrase "War is hell."
 
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sanddune50 said:
Only in your own delusional eyes. I don't care if you take me seriously or not, because you or your opinion really don't mean anything to me. I'm just laughing at your hypocrisy that are completely blind to. If you want to be taken seriously, I would advise you to stop posting in threads you are way in over your head on. Maybe organize a peace protest, light a candle, or whatever it is cupcakes like you enjoy doing when the heat starts turning up.
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Who Is Barack Obama? : snopes.com

I don't want to shock you by completely shattering your conspiracy theory, so maybe just read a little of this at a time. If you read it all at once, you might actually die from embarrassment. We have a very real problem around the world in radical islam that has to be addressed. There's not really time to waste on the lunatic fringe who think the president is in on it.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Right. We should back away from the ledge because its just a "small" portion of them that are "radicalized". Estimates are around 15%..meh that is nothing! Just 300,000,000 give or take a suicide bomber here and there. Yeah, the world doesnt have anything to worry about.

Tomorrow..yeah, tomorrow is when Islam is gonna be "peaceful"..just gotta give them time. Maybe they need jobs? Yeah! Let's start a jobs program to deter terrorism! Lets stop using oil because you know, climate change causes terrorism! I bet if we stopped using oil and removed the sole source of income for almost every muslim country, terrorism would just end! Yeah!!
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If this country is and ever was serious about fighting terrorism, we would have bombed Saudi Arabia to the Stone Ages after 9/11.
 
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Grand Vol said:
As I'm sure you do as well. The problem being in the information flow downward is not always what it needs to be. This isn't a slam on your work or comrades Tim, but you know information that would be helpful doesn't always make it to the lower levels.

Even after 9/11 the "need to know" spouted by so many federal agencies as an excuse to close hold information made it harder for local and state levels to do their jobs.
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So I ask again, what qualifies you to be an expert in this conversation? You've said yourself right here that information is filtered down to even local LE.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
What qualifies you to take another poster's words out of context, to attack another poster for calling you out on it or to posture yourself as some all knowing expert on a shooting that is less than 24 hrs old halfway around the world?
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The same reason you do it all the time. You take single words or phrases out of my posts and use them out of context all...the...****ing...time.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
Locate the source of the problem. Immediately send weaponry to those who actually have the guts to fight ISIS in Kurdistan. Authorize the use of force. Announce the suspension of the Geneva Convention because it should never, ever apply to a terrorist group like ISIS. Issue ROE protecting our combat troops to the fullest extent and offer no quarter to the enemy.

This isn't kill all Muslims. But the "containment" approach of this President and the European allies has not worked and has only served to provide a base in Europe and perhaps the United States for complex terrorist attacks against innocent people.

Time for the Jacksonian approach. Time to provide ISIS with the full meaning of Sherman's phrase "War is hell."
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You know, for a so-called "conservative," you seem dead set on bankrupting the hell out of this country.

Do us all a favor and never criticize another "progressive social program" and liberal spending ever again. You're apparently one of the worst offenders.

Go fight your own damn wars, Cheney.
 
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n_huffhines said:
And the nazis were people that thought "fire cleanses".
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I have no idea what that has to do with my statement. But I'll help you out. The Nazis would not have been nearly as effective in killing people if people like LG and Ras weren't so willing to look the other way as their neighbors were murdered.


Better?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Umm, did you actually read that post?.
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Uhh, yeah... I actually did. Unlike some people, I didn't take your words and then run in a totally opposite direction with my conclusion.

The problem being in the information flow downward is not always what it needs to be. This isn't a slam on your work or comrades Tim, but you know information that would be helpful doesn't always make it to the lower levels.
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So I ask again, what qualifies you over anyone else? Are you on that side doing the filtering or are you on this side of the information filter with the rest of us?
 
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hog88 said:
Send the ****ers to Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Iran ext. let the other Muslim nations take care of them.
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All Syrians? Or just the Muslim ones? Or just the Alawites? Or just the Christian ones? Who in particular are you talking about when you say Syrians?
 
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So it's confirmed that one of the terrorists was a Syrian refugee that entered through Greece in October. It's time for our nation to put its collective foot down and stop the import of refugees. This is borderline an act of war on the US citizens by our government.
 
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@jaketapper 25m25 minutes ago

3 US officials tell CNN an American died in the Paris attacks; 2 say she was female & killed in one of the restaurant attacks.
 
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davethevol said:
So it's confirmed that one of the terrorists was a Syrian refugee that entered through Greece in October. It's time for our nation to put its collective foot down and stop the import of refugees. This is borderline an act of war on the US citizens by our government.
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You guys don't want to go down the rabbit hole and see why both Republicans (Corker) and Democrats alike are supporting bringing in more immigrants and refugees into this country.

I've tried a dozen time to tell most of you why they are flooding the country with illegals and foreigners, but you all refuse to listen.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Uhh, yeah... I actually did. Unlike some people, I didn't take your words and then run in a totally opposite direction with my conclusion.
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No, you just completely missed what I was saying. Which isn't surprising. Furthermore, you ignored the exchange up to the post you wanted to quote which provides significant context to what I was saying to Tim.

Again, not surprising as you tend to take posts out of context and without the full conversation.

Rasputin_Vol said:
So I ask again, what qualifies you over anyone else? Are you on that side doing the filtering or are you on this side of the information filter with the rest of us?
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You know what Tim does (did) for a living. You know what Count does for a living. You know what I did for a living.

Consider the three professions represented here and consider what I said. And consider my response to Tim. And consider carefully what I said. And the fact I said "not a slam against you or your comrades" implying I was directing it at the upper level, implying I was at the lower level, implying bureaucracy tends to be a barrier, implying from a previous post information sharing is still not what it needs to be post-9/11.

Have I sufficiently broken it down into basic enough terms for you to grasp?
 
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Grand Vol said:
No, you just completely missed what I was saying. Which isn't surprising. Furthermore, you ignored the exchange up to the post you wanted to quote which provides significant context to what I was saying to Tim.

Again, not surprising as you tend to take posts out of context and without the full conversation.



You know what Tim does (did) for a living. You know what Count does for a living. You know what I did for a living.

Consider the three professions represented here and consider what I said. And consider my response to Tim. And consider carefully what I said. And the fact I said "not a slam against you or your comrades" implying I was directing it at the upper level, implying I was at the lower level, implying bureaucracy tends to be a barrier, implying from a previous post information sharing is still not what it needs to be post-9/11.

Have I sufficiently broken it down into basic enough terms for you to grasp?
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So you are on this side of the filter? Which again allows me to ask you, what allows you to proclaim yourself to be an expert in the subject matter when even you aren't getting the full story.
 
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For an American citizen out here that is non-violent and not engaged in any activity that would hurt anyone or their property, law enforcement gets a pass to kill at will. Yet, when some self-proclaimed terrorist with an expired visa makes himself known as a threat, we offer them every legal loophole to jump through to not violate rights that are only granted to American citizens...

Imagine that...
 
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The situation in Europe is unbelievable. Countries resisting the refugee surge are admonished. Building fences and closing borders is declared inhumane. The progressive mentality is that giving the savage what they want will placate them. This is what Chamberlain did with Hitler. Give them a little and maybe that's enough. It will never be enough for these people. Their ultimate goal is to convert or kill every infidel. Letting them into your country just insures them a shorter trip to where you live. Weird that they were able to get machine guns when France has such strict gun control. At least it insured that those attacked died unarmed instead of possibly hurting one another in the crossfire. And Obama has promised to bring tens of thousands of them here. What in the world.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
The situation in Europe is unbelievable. Countries resisting the refugee surge are admonished. Building fences and closing borders is declared inhumane. The progressive mentality is that giving the savage what they want will placate them. This is what Chamberlain did with Hitler. Give them a little and maybe that's enough. It will never be enough for these people. Their ultimate goal is to convert or kill every infidel. Letting them into your country just insures them a shorter trip to where you live. Weird that they were able to get machine guns when France has such strict gun control. At least it insured that those attacked died unarmed instead of possibly hurting one another in the crossfire. And Obama has promised to bring tens of thousands of them here. What in the world.
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And how is that any different than what we have here in regards to the US/Mexican border?
 
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